Federal Income Tax

[lord_carbo]

Re: Federal Income Tax

Wrong. Nothing gets done because politicians don't have an incentive to get anything productive done by getting rid of unneeded legislation. In the US, we have the ICC, which was at first regulation of private oligopolies/monopolies of the railroads but now acts as competitive protection for inefficient means of transportation like trains. And nobody has an incentive to get rid of it because it is a small issue, and getting rid of it would cost more votes than gained.

[kommisar[os]]

Re: Federal Income Tax

this has nothing to do with politicians since for the most part they aren't the victims.

[legato210]

Re: Federal Income Tax

There is no legal documentation what so ever that states U.S. citizens must pay a Federal Income Tax. In fact, it's against our laws to tax an individuals income.

[insanefreddy926]

Re: Federal Income Tax

From National Archives website:

"AMENDMENT XVI

Passed by Congress July 2, 1909. Ratified February 3, 1913.

Note: Article I, section 9, of the Constitution was modified by amendment 16.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."

It's right there in the Constitution, like carbo said. I don't know where you're getting the idea that it's illegal from, but it's not.

[legato210]

Re: Federal Income Tax

From National Archives website:



It's right there in the Constitution, like carbo said. I don't know where you're getting the idea that it's illegal from, but it's not.

you and carbo should do a little more research.

Here's a little bit of reading for you ignorance.

http://givemeliberty.org/features/taxes/ad/WtpLitAdColor.pdf

[perkeyone]

Re: Federal Income Tax

tax evaders are just greedy "see you in tea"s
they want to enjoy the benefits of living in a taxed society but dont want to pay for it.
if you dont want to pay taxes
move to antartica
or kill yourself
just think of all the money youll save by not living

[Coolgamer]

Re: Federal Income Tax

"Ad Hominem Attacks- An ad hominem attack is when you direct your argument against the person, rather than their own argument. Example: Why should we listen to you, you're an idiot! (If they're unintelligent, you should be perfectly able to show your disagreement by attacking the point, not the speaker)" - http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=65553

If you are having difficulty discussing these topics on these forums then maybe its because you fail to meet certain realizations about what you are saying, as shown above.
You cant accurately disprove something because you believe the person presenting it is not a person to be trusted.
Aside from it all, it is very much true that if you try to avoid paying the federal income tax because you think its illegal you will still go to jail nonetheless. All im proposing is this movie presents valid food for thought. Im not saying we should all band together and collectively not pay the income tax, but its exactly what the movie presents: Is it right for all of these things to be happening? And in correspondence with that, are these ideas showing that America IS indeed moving from freedom to fascism through its dealings, such as this proposed illegal tax?

Bringing up the fact that your main proponent had legal issues regarding tax law and has been involved with other fringe movements is hardly an ad hominem attack.