A Tribute To Seto

[funmonkey54]

Re: A Tribute To Seto

First of all, wtf fanfiction.

Second, you change tenses like it's going out of style. There are several poorly phrased sentences throughout with missing words that just don't make any sense. It was very, very cut and dry. I was more impressed with your last work.

The story itself felt kind of bland, and boring. Pretty much agree with Mal.

Also, I feel you used pronouns too often. When you start a new paragraph always state the person being referred to again. It got very confusing as the story progressed.

Yeah, the whole thing reeked of horrible horrible cliche and overexaggerated nonsense.

Also, The music, as a whole song was appropriate for maybe one and a half paragraphs of the piece, then it was entirely inappropriate.

*cough cough* All Jealous *cough cough*

JK.

While it is not perfect, I really do like it. I like the general idea and your ability to elaborate upon the previously existing idea.

[Verruckter]

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*cough cough* All Jealous *cough cough*

JK.

While it is not perfect, I really do like it. I like the general idea and your ability to elaborate upon the previously existing idea.

Mal has 100x more talent than this.

[Vendetta21]

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@Van - I agree.

I skimmed your story and told myself I would come back to it later, but now that you butchered my name I am not going to read it at all. If you aren't going to give me the proper respect of spelling my username right you can just call me V. But thus far only people I like call me V and I don't want to change that. So you can't even call me that. Call me SIR. That is all I will allow from this juncture. Thank you.

Also, people are critical because it's a fanfic of FFVII, not because of the quality of your writing. While quality may have something to do with it, I'm not 100% sure, fanfics are necessarily lame as a trait of their genre and so you have to go to great pains to get people out of a preconceived mindset and you have to write much better than you would have to otherwise to prove legitimacy in your writing. This is absolutely true. Anyone who says otherwise is either a fanfic-writer or someone who thinks too much about it.

The reason is because your characters and their backstory are not actually yours, and so you have both the burden of following the original backstory, as well as skillfully innovating without disrupting previous character and story information and enough so as to keep us interested, as well as getting past our preconceived notions about fanfics. Fun to write, fun to read for a very esoteric audience, but very rarely regarded as quality and well respected by everyone. Don't let the Man get you down. But if you're writing to say something deep, your own characters will always be a better vessel for the depths than someone elses, given that you're trying to make the point to a larger audience of people.

[TheRapingDragon]

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Way to steal my story and try to say it's your own. Not to mention you butchered it. Here, everyone, this is the original (and better) version:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showthread.php?p=2806564#post2806564

[devonin]

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*cough cough* All Jealous *cough cough*

I'd post something of my own that I've written, but the most recent pieces of writing I even have are about 6 years old, and man do I think it all sucks now.

Besides, back in the day, I myself wrote *gasp* fanfic (Though more in the sense of "You have a world, I think I'd like to write in it" rather than "I'm going to take your existing characters and make them all gay lovers" as seems to be the norm in most fanfic.)

[MalReynolds]

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I'd just like to throw out there that I've never ever written fanfiction.

[devonin]

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There'snothing necessarily wrong with writing fanfiction as a concept. Writing further adventures of characters you know and like is a perfectly fulfilling method of writing and creative output.

However, when you take someone's existing characters/world/plot whatever, and COMPLETELY CHANGE IT to make it what YOU always wished they were, I don't even call that fanfiction. You're blatantly disrespecting the author you claim to be a fan of by telling them that what they established as canon for those characters is not good enough for you to write about.

Unfortunately, the vast vast majority of "fanfic" is just that, taking existing canon, raping it for your own personal amusement, and then patting yourself on the back about how creative you are to steal someone else's characters and turn them into something that has nothing at all to do with their characters.

As far as I'm concerned, if you use an author's existing characters at -all- in your fanfiction (And I tried to avoid that as much as possible when I was writing) it should be in minor scene-establishing roles, and you should do your damndest to keep them as true as humanly possible to their established canon.

But I fail to see how appreciating another author's work enough to want to use elements of it is somehow necessarily a bad thing.

[MalReynolds]

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I don't mind using setting.

I mind using characters. It's just lazy.

[Phynx]

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As a person of an open mind, I find writing anything that derives from any form of inspiration is honorable in its own right. Fanfiction is nothing bad. Just bad writers making things bad. If that statement applies to this story I wrote, I'm sorry. I just wrote whatever came to my thoughts as I listened to that song. Yeah, I am far from perfect with writing. I am just a beginner starting out in the world of literature so please have some slack for me. I will work on fixing my writing and making it a bit more original, sort of like my first story was, though it too had many flaws that made it deficient in terms of literature standards. So yeah, I'll work on things. :/

[MalReynolds]

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Fanfiction is inherently lazy because you're using the foundation and support that someone else already made and using it for yourself. That's the main problem - and whatever they chose to do with it is final, it's God Law. By subverting that and changing characters into something else, you're just showing that you lack the creativity to construct your own characters or situation. It's all intolerable to me. No so much setting-stealing as character destruction.

[Squeek]

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What about the only creative fiction I ever wrote? The conclusion to a show that never ended?

I mean I'd never post it because fanfiction is lame as hell but still.

[MalReynolds]

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You're once again taking characters that were never intended for your use and using them in ways that were unintended. It's laaazzzzzzyyyy - and wishful thinking.

[devonin]

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I'd argue that in many cases it is -more- difficult to take an existing character and write them in the style and in an appropriate manner to match the pre-existing writing than it is to just make a new character from whole cloth.

[MalReynolds]

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Then that arguement dictates that all fan-fiction authors are, by their nature, excellent writers due to the difficulty it takes to use someone elses characters.

[Vendetta21]

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Then that arguement dictates that all fan-fiction authors are, by their nature, excellent writers due to the difficulty it takes to use someone elses characters.

No it doesn't. Learn to interpret. Also, you should know by now that Devonin is 99.9% right about 99.9% of things. Jeeze where have you been?