Campus shootings, psychological theories?

[rzr]

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LAshing out is exactly what it is. these people can't take the current situation in their life, and they want to make everyone else in their life suffer immensely. After, they either

A) Can't take the consequences of what they did

Which they most likely will, but they won't do it with ease. And, for doing this they will be further insulted, causing a vicious circle.

or

B) Hate themselves and want to die.

Which is why most kill themselves after.

[tsugomaru]

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Edgar Allen Poe once wrote about something called the Imp of the Perverse. The idea behind it is that sometimes, we can do things that are very dark and evil with curiosity as a motivation. In the back of our minds, we are always asking ourselves, what will happen if I do this or that until the point where we actually do commit the act for the sake of committing the act.

~Tsugomaru

[Zythus]

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What are humans weak in comparison to? I don't seem to be able to find an existence that is stronger. Humans can't do many things, but the term weak is a comparative adjective. There has to be a stronger entity for humans to be called weak. I believe everything from nonliving to living things are all equal in that respect. They follow the same rules of situation and consequence, parameters and possibilities, and cause and effect.

Humans are weak compared to the visionaries that they view themselves to be. Humans ascribe themselves to what they wish to be, and not what they really are. By this simple bravado, humans continue to confide baselessly in themselves , in the dream that they put themselves in. Take the fish out of the water and it will die within the hour.

[Bricktastic]

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These things have been happening all too frequently. And it happens in two parts: Take away as many lives as possible then kill yourself. It's so strange and sudden.

What could drive one to such a thought and choice?

Hahaha, have you been to public school lately? I can tell you, I'm not one to have many violent thoughts against others, but school made me angry many more times than I have been at home/with friends/out etc. It's the atmosphere. At least that's part of it. I mean, look at all those tough guys in school. I don't know about your school, but I know some kids were in gangs or acted like it. Kids will bring a gun to school if they are in a fight with someone. It's happened at my old school before. I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem bringing one if everyone pissed him off and he started going crazy.

The things they would have to blame would be teachers, students, or home life. I'm sure they just have a weak mind and don't know what else to do when they are frustrated with people.

I could be wrong, I'm no shooter, just my theory.

[darkness1477]

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the people who do the shooting are waedk minded individuals. so what people bully you thats life it happens to everyone get over it.

[Bricktastic]

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the people who do the shooting are waedk minded individuals. so what people bully you thats life it happens to everyone get over it.

Never said ANYTHING about bullies...? I can't get over something I haven't said and for the record I'm not even in school, I think I am way over that.

[marioGP87]

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Psycological insanity are mostly the main reason why shool shootings happened.

Another reason why they would do these things: Drugs (ie: Cocaine, Crack, Hash, marijuana, mushrooms [yes they are drugs], etc.)

Or: too much drinking (alcoholism >___<)

[Kilroy_x]

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If anyone actually knew the answer to this, there wouldn't be campus shootings. Or at least, psychological theory is to social control what economic theory is to investing. It doesn't let anyone predict the future, even when all the "signs" are there. Essentially anything anyone can authoritatively say about this will be either formally trivial, or pretty damn close. Pretty much all of the good guesses could stand to be a little bit better.

[foxyroxy2693]

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Why does it have to be a psychological reason;
As americans we're constantly exposed and to violence. Most Americans would think nothing of seeing a murder, on tv. However, unless you're a pregnat woman with her hormones out of balance you probably would not care too much about ' joe' who was on the news because some 'gang' broke into his house and he was bludgeoned to death. Not to say 'it's the media's fault', but they give us freedom of speech and look what we've done with it.

Ex_ yaya in zimbabwe, lucky to go to school, wouldn't ever think of shooting-or even causing harm to classmates.

On the other hand, maybe it is psychological; but where did all the personality disorders come from?

[Psychotik]

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There was actually a school shooting about a year ago in my city. The man was insane. He was rejected for his whole life. He was mentally unstable. He was seen in pictures holding various weapons. He seemed to be into vampires and the dead. Loneliness and rejection can do a lot to a mind.

[Jokee]

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Why would this happen?

Because those people are pissed off of living in a cage. By a cage I mean this: You are always told what to do and not to do, what's good, what's bad and even what you should think. Don't trust me? I'll take music for exemple. What kind of music do you hear on I'd say 90% of radio stations? R&B. Justin Timberlake and all that ****. You don't need to ask yourself if it's good "music" because they heard it was, so it has to be...

Those guys are brighter than the average citizen (they are mostly critical thinkers, just like you). They actually think by themselves and want to live away from this pretentious society. They want to live freely. I guess those shootings are a desperate act to free themselves and show the world how wrong is the world that they live in.

I tried to come up with something good here but it`s a bit hard for me with my youth and stuff. Also I have to think about what I'm gonna say and then translate it to english and I'm a bit unsure of the structure of some of my phrases.

[Tater Tot]

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Why would this happen?

Because those people are pissed off of living in a cage. By a cage I mean this: You are always told what to do and not to do, what's good, what's bad and even what you should think. Don't trust me? I'll take music for exemple. What kind of music do you hear on I'd say 90% of radio stations? R&B. Justin Timberlake and all that ****. You don't need to ask yourself if it's good "music" because they heard it was, so it has to be...

Those guys are brighter than the average citizen (they are mostly critical thinkers, just like you). They actually think by themselves and want to live away from this pretentious society. They want to live freely. I guess those shootings are a desperate act to free themselves and show the world how wrong is the world that they live in.

I tried to come up with something good here but it`s a bit hard for me with my youth and stuff. Also I have to think about what I'm gonna say and then translate it to english and I'm a bit unsure of the structure of some of my phrases.

You have a good point, we have it imprinted on us throughout our lives what we are and are not supposed to think, and how we should behave, while at the same time we are told to think for ourselves and live our own lives, which are contradictary to one another. Dwelling on that for too long could be detrimental to a person.

The killers are often called "highly depressed" or "mad", but to be honest, I don't believe we will ever fully understand the motives until we go "mad" ourselves.

[Kilroy_x]

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At which point we won't be able to communicate the motives, unless our hypothesis was wrong. That is, unless we could have understood them without gaining them as our own motivations.

On an unrelated note, I sort of wonder if Robert Ardrey was just lost to time or something. Or at least academically buried via the normal method. Maybe campus shootings are a reminder that professors, or anyone that claims their authority stems from truth for that matter, can't just eternally talk around problems and contradictions. That might be a little too romantic, though.