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  • DJ_Swabber
    Is feckin' leget, betch.™
    • Feb 2003
    • 511

    #61
    Re: The Dark Knight

    - Was super good.
    Plus, I got shark kisses in between the intense scenes.

    Though, it did feel like every BIG part(s) of the movie it could end there, but they were like: "OHH NO.. lets make it MORE and MORE intense."
    /splosions
    Last edited by DJ_Swabber; 07-21-2008, 09:59 PM.

    JOIN the Spartans or DIEEEEE. =D (go to my random thought)

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    • super kid
      FFR Player
      • Nov 2006
      • 1359

      #62
      Re: The Dark Knight

      Grammy for Ledger? I think so.
      Originally posted by KgZ
      next time instead of trying to talk to the girl acting like a sketchball just whip your dick and stick it in her mouth; dont even say anything

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      • Afrombean
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2007
        • 285

        #63
        Re: The Dark Knight

        regarding shox's spoiler:
        You do know his coin is heads on both sides, right? He "makes [his] own luck". Usually, it's "good heads" and "bad heads". That's something else though, his "bad heads" wasn't anywhere near as distinct as it should have been in my opinion. In other portrayals it usually has large gashes, but this one just looked like any old coin that had been in circulation for a long time.

        Also, his last flip was for whether or not he'd shoot the kid, right? Didn't that turn up bad heads, which is why Batman tackled him? I don't know for certain, I still haven't had a chance to go see it a second time yet. I'm hoping to get out to the imax sometime.


        Yeah... Ledger's performance is DEFINITELY worthy of a GRAMMY. Or maybe an Emmy. At least a Peabody.

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        • Tokzic
          FFR Player
          • May 2005
          • 6878

          #64
          Re: The Dark Knight

          omg heith leger was amazing omg!!
          are you kidding

          the joker was well written and mediocrely acted

          Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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          • Afrombean
            FFR Player
            • Feb 2007
            • 285

            #65
            Re: The Dark Knight

            Originally posted by Tokzic
            are you kidding

            the joker was well written and mediocrely acted
            Oh?

            (for the slow, the white sections are spoilers)

            Please, then, tell us what areas had room for improvement. For the direction the character went, it was essentially perfect. The only part that I thought didn't really fit was when he told the story about his father cutting him, but that was later absolved when he told someone else that he had done it to himself; he wasn't being serious, he was joking with them, no matter how ironically he delivered the "why so serious" line. Honestly, I would have liked to have seen another scene like that, just to drive home the point, but it works well enough as is.

            But then again, now that I think about it, that sort of thing is dipping into the double irony department and I do realize that most of you simply have no appreciation for it. Even so, the characterization and portrayal couldn't have been better, even if you didn't like the few ironic scenes.

            Or maybe you would have rather had those scenes be delivered seriously? I hope not. Were you also bothered by his sarcastic clapping when the police were holding him and they announced that Gordon was going to be commissioner?

            Like, honestly, I don't see how anyone who is a fan of the real Joker could not appreciate this. I think the only people who would even have a chance of not loving this are ones who have only ever seen the Joker in the campy TV series/movie, and Burton's 1989 Batman (who, incidentally, wasn't as far off mark as he could have been... ugh that TV show...).

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            • super kid
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2006
              • 1359

              #66
              Re: The Dark Knight

              Afrombean: I heard the clapping was improvised by Heath Ledger and the director rolled with it. I thought it was something the Joker would do.
              Last edited by super kid; 07-21-2008, 11:56 PM.
              Originally posted by KgZ
              next time instead of trying to talk to the girl acting like a sketchball just whip your dick and stick it in her mouth; dont even say anything

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              • Afrombean
                FFR Player
                • Feb 2007
                • 285

                #67
                Re: The Dark Knight

                Originally posted by super kid
                Afrombean:
                mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
                I heard the clapping was improvised by Heath Ledger and the director rolled with it.
                I heard this as well. Or rather, I believe I read it.
                I thought i was something the Joker would do.
                I think so as well. The only other thing which would be appropriate would be to congratulate him vocally and possibly cackle maniacally.

                Another point that I haven't seen brought up a lot as an example of the greatness of the performance (spoiler below):
                When he blows up the hospital. As if being in a dress wasn't enough, he did the "omg serious walk away" thing, paused, struggled with the detonator, then set off the rest of the explosives. And the way he did it was so perfect, so right. Often when people cite how great he is, they'll name the disappearing pencil scene. It is great, but I think this one hits the mark just as well. Another one that really nailed it for me was the scene at the end where he's just talking to Batman; the characterization couldn't have been more right.

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                • super kid
                  FFR Player
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1359

                  #68
                  Re: The Dark Knight

                  All those parts were all good. I loved the hospital scene.
                  Also loved this part; Spoiler warning:Were we first walks in to crash the party. I also heard from my friend that Michael Cain was actually scared at this point in real life. lol. Also the part were he says " No I killed the bus drive" and when they ask "So you think you can just walk away with our money" and he replies "Yeah". Lol.
                  Originally posted by KgZ
                  next time instead of trying to talk to the girl acting like a sketchball just whip your dick and stick it in her mouth; dont even say anything

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                  • Lightknight924
                    FFR Player
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 1164

                    #69
                    Re: The Dark Knight

                    We should all become super villians/heroes and terroize/protect the forum.


                    Edit* I call Riddler.

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                    • Afrombean
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 285

                      #70
                      Re: The Dark Knight

                      Originally posted by djshox
                      two face murders robin so joker breaks batman's spine while batgirl shoots herself in the spine
                      uh dude, I'm pretty sure he got good heads on himself, then went back to the whole "lie to him, tell him everything is going to be alright" thing. I'm also pretty sure he flipped it and it came back bad heads. I might be mistaken, since like I said, I haven't gotten a second go at it yet, but I'm pretty darn sure he kept going after getting good heads on himself. Because the thing is Batman was like "no, don't blame him blame the people whose fault it is", so he first goes to Batman, then himself, then back to Gordon (although with gordon, he was attacking him by proxy of his son) Because they each hand a hand in it, although I do find it funny that Joker wasn't his first target (not counting his outburst in the hospital), although I suppose he would be too difficult to track down.

                      Man, I really hope I get to the imax to see this again soon. Does anyone know which scenes were filmed specifically for imax? I can't even begin to think of what it could be because the ones that would look best would probably be too risky of shots for the more expensive camera systems.

                      You know what, I think I'm going to give the theatre a call when I get home in the morning and find out when the next available showing is. It's funny... all this talk of sold out shows, when I went to the first showing Friday morning and the theatre wasn't even full. I guess I caught the crowd who couldn't make the midnight showing, but still wanted to see it early and also didn't mind getting up "early" to see it at 9:30AM.

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                      • MalReynolds
                        CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 6571

                        #71
                        Re: The Dark Knight

                        Yeah.

                        SPOILER:


                        Two face had already flipped for himself. It was for the son. And the outcome of the coin toss was good heads, as the coin hit the floor.
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                        • NoTheyArentYouRetard
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 26

                          #72
                          Re: The Dark Knight

                          He flips for Batman first, then himself, then the son. It wouldn't make sense for Batman to dive in as he's about to shoot himself and then knock him off the building! That would be like trying to save someone from drowning in a plastic water tank by unloading machine guns at it to blow air holes.

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                          • MalReynolds
                            CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 6571

                            #73
                            Re: The Dark Knight

                            He flips for Batman, shoots him. Puts the gun to his head, flips, survives. Puts the gun to Gordon's son's head, flips, but before he can catch the coin, Batman pushes the son and Harvey out of the way - off the building. The coin landing face up, to me, meant that Gordon's son lived. And probably would have lived, regardless.

                            EDIT: And Afrobean, the coin toss in the hospital counts. It was the first step in his killing spree.
                            "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

                            "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


                            My new novel:

                            Maledictions: The Offering.

                            Now in Paperback!

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                            • Afrobean
                              Admiral in the Red Army
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 13262

                              #74
                              Re: The Dark Knight

                              Originally posted by MalReynolds
                              EDIT: And Afrobean, the coin toss in the hospital counts. It was the first step in his killing spree.
                              I guess what I should have said is that he gave up too easily. Notice the scene where he spares the mobster or whoever, then kills the driver as a frame of reference. I really liked how they handled that too, they left it open for him without allowing him to make multiple flips for the same act like they did in Batman Forever. That whole take on it in that one is pretty dumb in hindsight, because when you let him flip indefinitely, he'll just keep flipping until he gets the one that lets him do EVIL, which changes him from an interesting person to a one note shell of a character.

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                              • NoTheyArentYouRetard
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 26

                                #75
                                Re: The Dark Knight

                                The whole point of Two-Face's character is that his split personality makes him rely on the flip of a coin to make decisions for him. He accepts the outcome of the coin and does not question it. They messed up in Forever by making him continue to flip until he got a given outcome.

                                I'm glad they got Two-Face's character right in this movie. The scene where he has Gordon's family hostage is chilling... classic Two-Face

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