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  • TC_Halogen
    Rhythm game specialist.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2008
    • 19376

    #151
    Re: Rock Band 2 Official

    Originally posted by Zamiax
    What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4
    Originally posted by Tokzic
    can you please piss off and stop spewing fanboy gibberish in the wrong thread
    +1.

    Don't make an assumption that when a game comes out, it's gonna be awesome. Everyone thought that about GH3, and well--it was ok; not worthy of OMGTHISAWESOMEFAP kind of a game.

    Just let the games come out, and then you can make this irrelevant judgment when everyone else has a definitive opinion.

    Also--as far as my preference, I'm waiting for RB2--GH3 turned me away from the series once the song difficulty got retardedly difficult (still worth picking up to get some serious practice before playing some RB online. ).

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    • three17s
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2005
      • 582

      #152
      Re: Rock Band 2 Official

      I find it kind of amusing how most, if not all, Guitar Hero players' jaws dropped at the Rock Band 2 setlist. Honestly, it's amazing. Harmonix has me sold on a Rock Band 2 set, but Guitar Hero has yet to pull me, even with offering a 6-note drumset. I personally feel that Rock Band players are more interested in the game, music, and having fun, much in comparison to Guitar Hero's competitive nature, while not saying Rock Band isn't competitive either.

      Also, I am surprised as well that Freezepop doesn't have a song on-disc, same with Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives and The Police.
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      • EnR
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        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2007
        • 8431

        #153
        Re: Rock Band 2 Official

        I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums
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        • Sir_Thomas
          FFR Veteran
          • Oct 2005
          • 848

          #154
          Re: Rock Band 2 Official

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          +1.

          Don't make an assumption that when a game comes out, it's gonna be awesome. Everyone thought that about GH3, and well--it was ok; not worthy of OMGTHISAWESOMEFAP kind of a game.

          Just let the games come out, and then you can make this irrelevant judgment when everyone else has a definitive opinion.

          Also--as far as my preference, I'm waiting for RB2--GH3 turned me away from the series once the song difficulty got retardedly difficult (still worth picking up to get some serious practice before playing some RB online. ).

          Im confused with what you call retarded difficult though. I picked up Guitar Hero and can get to playing Expert within about an hour or so of practice (Not ALL expert.) and still do pretty decent.

          People complained the songs were getting to easy for DDR because they burned them into the ground.. The game is actually giving a damn about the hardcore players who dont want to sit FCing the same songs over and over again because they already raped the game into the ground.


          Put it this way, if you spent the same ammount of time playing FFR or Stepmania, you wouldnt be complaining about those hard songs. When I first started FFR I was like "What the ****, no way in hell im doing master songs ever." but I was wrong.

          Now if they dont evenly spread the ammount of easy songs compared to difficult (Super skill curve FTW)... then I would understand; but if its too hard.. Just get better

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          • Nickels000
            Your What Hurts?
            • Feb 2006
            • 147

            #155
            Re: Rock Band 2 Official

            Originally posted by EnR
            I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums
            The cymbals do the same thing as the corresponding drum pad, but you can be stylish and use the cymbals to feel more like a drummer and look cool at the same time. Rock Band 2 will also incorporate a way to teach you to play drums so you can go from Rock Band drums to real drums.

            Have fun with this:

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            Last edited by Nickels000; 07-19-2008, 12:42 AM.

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            • Afrombean
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2007
              • 285

              #156
              Re: Rock Band 2 Official

              Originally posted by EnR
              I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums
              It'll be like what I said: the cymbal notes will have a different graphic when scrolling. Sort of like a HO/PO, except probably more noticeable.

              Or it'll be exactly the same on screen and you can play either colored part when that color comes. That'd be lame though.

              EDIT: and the problem with GH3 is the way they did charts. They created artificial difficulty. The game became about being hard instead of about being fun.

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              • NFD
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2007
                • 4715

                #157
                Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                I still haven't played the first, seeing Synth sing Californication did not help.

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                • jellygod
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                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1703

                  #158
                  Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                  lol im gonna buy gh4, rockband 2, and rock revolution

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                  • dore
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                    • Feb 2006
                    • 6317

                    #159
                    Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                    Originally posted by Afrombean
                    Or it'll be exactly the same on screen and you can play either colored part when that color comes. That'd be lame though.
                    That's what it is. All of the extras are designed to be just that: extras; ergo, optional. It still is going to look like RB1, and be completely functional with RB1 peripherals.

                    Also there's going to be an official double-bass add-on. Dunno why it's needed though 'cause they'll most likely continue to chart songs with double bass with the left foot removed.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                    • Afrombean
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 285

                      #160
                      Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                      Originally posted by dore
                      That's what it is. All of the extras are designed to be just that: extras; ergo, optional. It still is going to look like RB1, and be completely functional with RB1 peripherals.
                      It wouldn't be hard for the controller to tell the console if cymbals are attached or not, and using this information, it could decide whether to differentiate the notes in the chart or not.

                      Also: it could just use colored squares and circles, and just tell the player to just hit the pad if that's all they've got.

                      Optional does not mean it can't be fully functional. It is entirely possible for them to make the thing fully backward and forward compatible, and still maintain additional functionality on the new hardware.

                      Also there's going to be an official double-bass add-on. Dunno why it's needed though 'cause they'll most likely continue to chart songs with double bass with the left foot removed.
                      Where did you hear this? The only mention of it I've heard is for the Ion kit, and as far as I was able to guess, it wouldn't be supported in game, or, if it is, would work just the same as the first pedal, meaning it'd be a "double setup". That would be dumb as hell.

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                      • dore
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 6317

                        #161
                        Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                        The only time the cymbals will have additional functionality is in the fills, where the yellow cymbal will be a hi-hat and the yellow pad will be a tom, etc.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                        • Tokzic
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2005
                          • 6878

                          #162
                          Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                          Originally posted by dore
                          The only time the cymbals will have additional functionality is in the fills, where the yellow cymbal will be a hi-hat and the yellow pad will be a tom, etc.
                          If this is true, I am definitely NOT buying new instruments.

                          I'm not paying for an extra if it adds absolutely nothing to gameplay.

                          Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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                          • Afrombean
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 285

                            #163
                            Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                            Originally posted by dore
                            The only time the cymbals will have additional functionality is in the fills, where the yellow cymbal will be a hi-hat and the yellow pad will be a tom, etc.
                            This better not be all it is. I've been one of the most vocal in favor of this sort of thing, and to them make it not even do a thing during play... ugh... it makes me sick to even think of it.

                            Especially if they're producing these high-end kits. What's the point if it does nothing during game play? Oh, so you're saying I can't hit my suspended cymbal on my kit when the drummer in the song hits his cymbal? If drummer on master track strikes cymbal, I HAVE TO hit pad? How much sense does that make?

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                            • three17s
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                              • Apr 2005
                              • 582

                              #164
                              Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                              Originally posted by Afrombean
                              What's the point if it does nothing during game play?
                              A more realistic drumset. GH:WT is selling off their drums as being 'the most realistic drumset for a music game yet', the Ion set beats it out of the water though. I can easily see you being able to hit the color symbol during game if the same color appears coming down the screen, such as hitting the green 'drum' or green 'symbol' would count for the same hit.
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                              • Tokzic
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2005
                                • 6878

                                #165
                                Re: Rock Band 2 Official

                                Originally posted by Afrombean
                                Especially if they're producing these high-end kits. What's the point if it does nothing during game play? Oh, so you're saying I can't hit my suspended cymbal on my kit when the drummer in the song hits his cymbal? If drummer on master track strikes cymbal, I HAVE TO hit pad? How much sense does that make?
                                what

                                nobody even came close to suggesting that

                                What it looks like is happening is that the cymbals are entirely, 100% optional in gameplay. You can hit them, sure, you can alternate between hitting blue cymbal and blue pad on every stroke, but it won't make any difference - just like you can alternate between hitting the X button and the blue pad right now, it seems you can alternate between hitting the blue drum and the blue cymbal.

                                And this is precisely what I'm against. That seems utterly pointless to me, and not remotely close to merit buying.

                                Last edited by Tokzic: Today at 11:59 PM. Reason: wait what

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