Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

[jyris1]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

don't know if someone already explained this but...

1. You can use the predefined BPM/BPM changes already coded in the MIDI file itself as a reference for stepfile making.

2. To get good quality MP3 sound from a MIDI file, you need a decent synthesizer to play back/record the MIDI file. There are software or hardware synthesizers available. The best ones are usually not free, unless you get them from some other source. Most normal MIDI players/converters sound terrible and/or like previous-gen video game music.

3. I am also interested in this topic, and I have been doing MIDI for about 12 years.

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[stargroup100]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

free converters suck. I've tried a lot of them and none of them have the sound I'm looking for

my midi's are not just a simple f*cking piano solo so I can't just plug them into an electric piano unless I'm not getting something

and finally how the hell do you convert a midi without a converter, live recording?

[dean_machine]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

EDIT (oops): CLAIRE DE LUNE

Dang it. I paid for that song off of iTunes.

[sleeplessdragn]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Haha, I did a really ****ty conversion though, wasn't paying too much mind. If something like this, with better quality, is needed than I wouldn't mind making a few more.

[sjoecool1991]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Someone convert Gnomenreigen NOW!!

[jyris1]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

free converters suck. I've tried a lot of them

and finally how the hell do you convert a midi without a converter, live recording?

Sort of. What I do is open a .WAV recorder and record the audio output from the MIDI instruments. A long time ago, when I had a digital piano/dedicated synth module, I routed the audio-out from the piano/synth into the audio in of the sound card, and recorded a .WAV while the MIDI played using the piano/synth.

Now, I dont have any dedicated midi hardware except my sound card (audigy 2 ZS) but the soundfonts capability of the ZS is good-- for example, the piano soundfont I have sounds virtually real. To record MIDI from a sound card like the ZS, set the audigy mixer to record the MIDI output or the "What You Hear". Then use a WAV recorder and record while the MIDI plays.

[dean_machine]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Haha, I did a really ****ty conversion though, wasn't paying too much mind. If something like this, with better quality, is needed than I wouldn't mind making a few more.

Oh, I only listened to like a few seconds of it. Yeah, I like my purchase better.

[Mr.Nothing]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Someone give me an easy way to calculate BPM and i'm on it like white on rice.

[Arch0wl]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

If anyone's feeling particularly generous...

(most of these sites don't allow direct linking so I have to link the directory and provide find instructions)

Bach

link provided above - CTRL+F "Violin Concerto in E maj (BWV 1042, 1st Mov’t.)"

http://www.imeem.com/jdt/music/e3ZREbay/johann_sebastian_bach_bach_violin_concerto_in_a_minor_bwv/

(difficult to remaster I would assume)

link provided above - CTRL+F "Badinerie from Orchestral Suite No.2 in Bmin. (BWV1067)"

http://www.imeem.com/people/Y6Dg4Vg/music/0aDGWnCB/johann_sebastian_bach_badinerie_from_suite_no2_in_b_minorm/

http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~moclin/data/li_campa.mid

http://www.imeem.com/classicalpiano/music/0fx8kw-j/liszt_la_campanella/

Rachmaninoff

link provided above - CTRL+F "3.Finale (Alla breve)"

http://www.imeem.com/jdt/music/lAtkOu2P/vladimir_horowitz_sergei_rachmaninoff_piano_concerto_no_3/

(would be insanely difficult to both remaster and step)

and if you're feeling humorous, http://kunstderfuge.com/alkan.htm
(would be more fun to remaster according to the way the MIDI sounds than the way people usually play it, hahaha)

CTRL+F

"Souvenirs. Trois morceaux dans le genre pathétique, dédiés à Liszt, op. 15 (1837)" "Le vent"

"1. la, Comme le vent"

"Le Chemin de Fer, op. 27 (1844)"

[hi19hi19]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

virtually real

My head exploded.

[sleeplessdragn]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

So I spent a good deal of tonight getting distracted by midi information. I spent a few hours converting La Campanella, including the listed tempo changes that I got from the midi file provided by the link. The midi came with quantized steps, which was a huge relief. It really is a bitch to manually insert all of the changes, but if anyone is concerned I can confirm that FL Studio should be able to match any midi file's tempo changes on the dot, so long as the division stays within a multiple of 1/96th of a beat. The sequencer just doesn't zoom in beyond that so I was lucky that this midi file had a 48 tick division.

I'll update this post later with the mp3, since rendering sondfonts seems to take hours, but I used a very nice sounding Concert Steinway that stayed pretty decent in the high registers.

EDIT: So I said **** hq and went with 6-point:

link----->LA CAMPANELLA<----

Here's the midi data I pulled from the file to get tempo changes as well. I found it odd that it had tempo changes in measures after the song had ended:
Track #0 ******************************************
Time Event
1: 1: 0 |Tempo | BPM=120 | micros\quarter=500000
|Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
4: 1: 0 |Tempo | BPM=97 | micros\quarter=618556
2: 24 |Tempo | BPM=82 | micros\quarter=731707
3: 24 |Tempo | BPM=69 | micros\quarter=869565
5: 1: 0 |Tempo | BPM=52 | micros\quarter=1153846
2: 0 |Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
60: 1: 0 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
24 |Tempo | BPM=101 | micros\quarter=594059
2: 0 |Tempo | BPM=95 | micros\quarter=631578
24 |Tempo | BPM=90 | micros\quarter=666666
3: 0 |Tempo | BPM=84 | micros\quarter=714285
24 |Tempo | BPM=78 | micros\quarter=769230
61: 1: 0 |Tempo | BPM=52 | micros\quarter=1153846
2: 0 |Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
96: 1: 42 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
2: 6 |Tempo | BPM=78 | micros\quarter=769230
18 |Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
105: 1: 30 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
46 |Tempo | BPM=95 | micros\quarter=631578
2: 14 |Tempo | BPM=86 | micros\quarter=697674
22 |Tempo | BPM=69 | micros\quarter=869565
26 |Tempo | BPM=60 | micros\quarter=1000000
30 |Tempo | BPM=33 | micros\quarter=1818181
3: 6 |Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
128: 1: 30 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
2: 6 |Tempo | BPM=101 | micros\quarter=594059
30 |Tempo | BPM=97 | micros\quarter=618556
3: 6 |Tempo | BPM=93 | micros\quarter=645161
30 |Tempo | BPM=90 | micros\quarter=666666
129: 1: 6 |Tempo | BPM=86 | micros\quarter=697674
18 |Tempo | BPM=69 | micros\quarter=869565
30 |Tempo | BPM=90 | micros\quarter=666666
42 |Tempo | BPM=93 | micros\quarter=645161
2: 6 |Tempo | BPM=97 | micros\quarter=618556
18 |Tempo | BPM=101 | micros\quarter=594059
30 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
42 |Tempo | BPM=106 | micros\quarter=566037
3: 6 |Tempo | BPM=110 | micros\quarter=545454
138: 3: 6 |Tempo | BPM=105 | micros\quarter=571428
30 |Tempo | BPM=99 | micros\quarter=606060
139: 1: 6 |Tempo | BPM=95 | micros\quarter=631578
30 |Tempo | BPM=121 | micros\quarter=495867
|End of track|


I would love some feedback on how it sounds. I already fixed a volume problem.

[Arch0wl]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Just a warning: remastering Alkan is opening a simfile Pandora's box similar to getting blanket DJ Sharpnel permissions. His collective FGO potential is so great that you may never see the end of the request tidalwave you'll receive. :X

(edit: With that said I would enjoy stepping any of the Alkan links I gave you so if you're ever feeling particularly generous I'm just saying)

[sleeplessdragn]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

Quick note: I tried to gather the midi for Bach's BWV 1042 and ended up with a broken link or bad file. I think something similar happened with another one of the links. I also couldn't find those midis listed on the site.

?_?

EDIT: I'm pretty sure I can whip out alkan_trois_morceaux_2_15_(c)yogore.mid, with its listed BPM changes, pretty easily. The 480 division is going to give me problems if the events don't land on a multiple of the 1/96th beat, as well as providing general math hell.

[Arch0wl]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

I fixed my post so you can access the MIDIs from their original directories.

[All_That_Chaz]

Re: Are you a bad enough dude to increase FFR's classical library?

I know that Hammy is stepping the third movement of Barber's Great American Symphony with Hillary Hahn playing the solo which I showed him. I was just going to leave it as a fun file in SM but if it could be in FFR that would be great and I definitely agree that the classical library needs a boost.

I don't know how the permission for that would work since it's a Sony recording that was made less than 20 years ago. Would I need Ms. Hahn's permission, the orchestra's permission, Sony's permission, or some combination thereof for the song to be put in FFR?