History of keyboard Stepmania pre-KBMP

[Arch0wl]

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It focuses on me because it's from my perspective. Almost any account of an event from a single person is going to be biased, so unless you have a team of people that describe the events from a detached perspective it's going to be skewed towards something. Even writers of history textbooks have trouble reducing their bias towards their own nation of origin or residence, for example.

and, it does seem to put BMR down... which is really a bit sad, given not only his history (which Arch does clearly note)... but you neglect to mention all that he did and still does for FFR. for just one example: you've noticed the new layout of FFR, right? guess who did all the graphics for it.

If it seemed like I put BMR down that wasn't the intention at all--I actually meant to emphasize his role. The sim community would likely not exist today if it weren't for BMR.

edit: Yeah. "BMR was the essence of DDRManiaX, and I can't stress enough how much of an influence he had on simfiles. If he had never made simfiles, FFR would be very different than how it is today."

Also, I didn't know that he still did work for FFR, so I apologize. That's pretty incredible.

[Izzy]

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Why do you believe that a single person influenced an entire simfile making community. Nobody single handedly did anything like that.

[jsloanismadpro]

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izzy wussup ,why you gotta be hating?

if it wasn't for kbmp i would be no where close to how good i am now, and neither would a lot of other people.

bmr was VERY influential to the way simfiles developed and the way things played out with dwi, stepmania, itg and almost everything related, to me this is a fact and it probably is to anybody else who's been in the scene for as long.

[Arch0wl]

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Why do you believe that a single person influenced an entire simfile making community. Nobody single handedly did anything like that.

Since the vast majority of people making keyboard files for FFR took their tecniques from people that had already been making files, the SM scene as we know it today largely came as a result of DDRManiaX, DDREI, and bemanisims. DDREI and bemanisims wouldn't exist if it weren't for DDRManiaX, which BMR founded. Hence, yes, BMR did have a huge influence on the simfile making community.

FFR would still exist without BMR, except you likely wouldn't be nearly as good as you are now. The entire reason FFR's difficulty was ramped up in the first place was because of the competition between Reach, Hyro, Yanah and myself (among others--those are the people I remember most) to one-up everyone else by making harder files. Hyro made Rondo, I made FotBB/Payon, Hyro made Caprice, I made Revo, Yanah made Club, Reach made Ice Climber, Yanah made ASb, I made blur, and so on. (They probably weren't created in that order but that's to the best of my memory.) None of us would know how to make files if it weren't for learning the techniques from DDRManiaX.

[bluguerrilla]

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I mean, you've got a point Izzy but he agrees with you so I don't really see the point in continuing to go on about it.

Personally, I missed all of this so I'm glad to read it. Even though it is slanted to what he expreienced it does show a natural progression towards 'what can we do harder and better', or at least 'harder'.

I'm glad that when I looked for a DDR game that I could play with my fingers that something like it existed.

It's kind of funny that the only reason that I knew something like it existed was because of Arch0wl's e-famousness (lol quasar).

Edit: ninja'd

[bmxant]

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Very good read, I remember sitting here playing DWI like it was yesterday. Arch do you still talk to CR22?

[Arch0wl]

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Nope, haven't talked to him in a while.

[i love you]

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It's kind of funny that the only reason that I knew something like it existed was because of Arch0wl's e-famousness (lol quasar).

Same here rofl.

Arch0wl: I do agree with you on most things but i'll have to agree with Izzy's point of view.

[Izzy]

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izzy wussup ,why you gotta be hating?

I'm not... why you gotta be making assumptions.

[sumzup]

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I love reading history like this. If there ever is a comprehensive encyclopedia/wiki for FFR, this should be included.

[bemaniruler]

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Wow, you just brought back SO many memories. Thanks for this, seriously.

[Kotarouchan]

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wow, this just reminded me when I used to play Delight Delight Reduplication and Dancing With Intensity and how crappy they were to play on...

[~SK_WhoCares~]

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i'll never look at the internet the same way again

[Arch0wl]

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!!! BMR posted in my thread. :O

(not being sarcastic either. oh man this is awesome. XD)

[Mans0n]

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Omg, so did I.
But yeah read this and it touched me in so many places *wink wink*