Who owns the moon?

[Zythus]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Again, refrain from posting if there is naught but repetition to post.

Seeing the difference between OST and MT (moon treaty), I am more reassured that the moon wouldn't be the scape of new warfare and competition, this, however, does not place other celestial bodies in the same position. With US' ego, I'm more than convinced they will take a swipe at outer space using whichever means, seeing how they purposely did not sign the agreement.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

I disagree. Knowing how territorial Russia is they would most likely be the initial country to claim space bodies. The United States does not necessarily have an ego itself, but its leaders do. They would counterclaim the space bodies for themselves. However, what would they benefit? Well, they wouldn't. As far as we know there is no economic benefit i outer space, or envioromental. Claiming anything that has no personal or public use is pointless, making claiming the Earth's moon pointless as there are no benefits to it.

[JKPolk]

Re: Who owns the moon?

With some technology in the works, implementable within the next 10-15 years, the price of lifting items to space could be brought as low as, or even lower than $100/lb, 1000 times less than it is right now. Keep that in mind when you say "space isn't profitable," because at this rate there's almost no way it isn't profitable.

[Zythus]

Re: Who owns the moon?

With earth's resources depleting at an alarming rate in the future, earth's exhausted supply is mere finitude. Hence, the moon and all of its resources (minerals, elements, etc) is better than a gold mine.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

I'm saying it -currently- isn't profitable. And there are [to my knowledge] no discovered profitable elements/potential mines in space.

[JKPolk]

Re: Who owns the moon?

The moon is a perfectly good mine. Gold can be mined on the moon and brought back for less than its sale price as it is, plus Helium 3 and other rare earth elements.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

The moon is a perfectly good mine. Gold can be mined on the moon and brought back for less than its sale price as it is, plus Helium 3 and other rare earth elements.

Bringing in another planet's gold would be a bad choice. With so much gold circulating it would easily become inflated.

[devonin]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Gold is a ridiculous economic standard now anyway. Currency can be made of whatever we want because we can accurately gauge the comparative strength of foreign economies now. Gold also isn't sufficiently vital in enough things to be any more of a world standard than any other metal used in electronics etc.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Agreed. If society saw anything to be valuable, it would be currency. Even dollars aren't even currency, just a substitute for the gold and other valuables backing it up.

[devonin]

Re: Who owns the moon?

What? Currency has always been (even when backed by the gold standard) nothing more than an intermediary in the barter system. "Dollars" are the currency used in many places including Canada and the US.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Exactly what I was saying. But back onto topic: can an government or private agency own the moon? Have we reached an agreement making this thread void?

[devonin]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Treaties say on the one hand "Nobody can" and on the other hand "countries can't" We don't know whether or not any country or organisation will take advantage of the discrepancy to try and do so, but the most likely consequence will be a move to remake the treaties rather than allow it.

Seems pretty done to me.

[rzr]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Lol, let it be known that today is the first day rzr and devonin have come to an agreement

Ok, I've been tossing around an idea on racism that I may post for us. Maybe someone else can throw a new thread up here...

[JonXia]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Nobody owns the moon, we need to find a great way to be able to organize laws, who it applies to and how it shall be enforced.

We have to research fuels and safety and other things, it is totally not profitable to go to the moon. So really, that whole treaty thing is out of date and has to be reviewed.

[JKPolk]

Re: Who owns the moon?

Nobody owns the moon, we need to find a great way to be able to organize laws, who it applies to and how it shall be enforced.

We have to research fuels and safety and other things, it is totally not profitable to go to the moon. So really, that whole treaty thing is out of date and has to be reviewed.

Uh... huh. I'm pretty sure I've addressed the idea of profiting from the moon many times so please read up before making blanket statements.