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  • bmah
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    • Oct 2003
    • 8448

    #1906
    Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

    Well you have to consider the fact that Sonic is not a Nintendo character, so having more than one playable character from a non-Nintendo game is not really reasonable. I wouldn't really care to have another playable character from the Metal Gear series for example.
    Tails is not completely absent at least. He's an assist trophy. And you might see him running around in the background of the Sonic stage.

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    • Gano
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2006
      • 997

      #1907
      Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

      Originally posted by Silvuh
      Samus was on her own, where as Fox has a whole party of characters... Maybe that's why?
      That's what I'm thinking too, a lot of people wanted Ridley in the game, but I don't think it would have worked too well. A mostly flying character seems out of place in Smash, which is also why I don't think Tails was in, although it would be cool.

      doraemon bustin caps

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      • bmah
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        • Oct 2003
        • 8448

        #1908
        Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

        Yeah, it really would've been awesome if Tails actually was a playable character. His moves would be pretty different from Sonic's I'd imagine, and not a clone.

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        • Silvuh
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          • Apr 2005
          • 938

          #1909
          Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

          Originally posted by bmah
          Well you have to consider the fact that Sonic is not a Nintendo character, so having more than one playable character from a non-Nintendo game is not really reasonable. I wouldn't really care to have another playable character from the Metal Gear series for example.
          Tails is not completely absent at least. He's an assist trophy. And you might see him running around in the background of the Sonic stage.
          Yeah, I've never played a Metal Gear game... I suppose any fan of that series probably would have said the same for some other character from that game. That Gray Fox character from the Metal Gear series is an assist trophy... Guess they couldn't do any more than that for a non-Nintendo character.
          Wait, Tails is an assist trophy? It's not on the site yet... Eh, that would be nice. Not as good as a playable character but still nice.
          P.S.
          I'll miss Mewtwo. Makes me wonder what Lucario will be like...
          It's better to talk about what's there instead of what isn't, though... So, yeah. The new Break the Targets and the level designer seems like it will be lots of fun.

          Originally posted by Gano
          A mostly flying character seems out of place in Smash, which is also why I don't think Tails was in, although it would be cool.
          A mostly-running character seems to be out of place in Smash, but...
          Oh, and Meta Knight can glide. Having Tails using the same mechanisms to fly would have been pretty sweet.
          Last edited by Silvuh; 02-6-2008, 07:39 PM.

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          • zidart
            FFR Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 964

            #1910
            Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

            by the way relambien in this world is a song for the 360/ps3 sonic game, and i love scrap brain zone song XD. live and learn, seven rings in hand and open your heart are my all time favorite

            marth is in brawl thanks to the fact that he is the main character in 2 or 3 fire emblem games.

            also i heard that the only thing that connects fox with wold is the landmaster and the fact that they are antrophomorphic animals XD.

            the roster is perfect IMO the clones really look like they have differences this time arround

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            • Relambrien
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2006
              • 1644

              #1911
              Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

              The similarities between Wolf and Fox are few.

              Fox's F-smash is his lunging kick that he's been using forever. Wolf's sort of lunges his whole body a good distance forward, sort of like Sheik's dash attack.

              Their other smashes differ, too.

              Fox's laser is a no-stun, low-damage, rapid-fire beam, whereas Wolf's is a single-shot, decent stun, heavy-damage plasma shot.

              Fox's Up-B is his Firefox, Wolf just sort of lunges in whatever direction after a short start up period.

              Fox's side-B moves him horizontally, Wolf's moves him diagonally upwards.

              Fox's reflector and Wolf's reflector are very different. Fox's appears and disappears really fast, if you mash down-B then he stays in the air a VERY long time. It still sends opponents diagonally down, but there isn't as much of a delay before they can move again, and it doesn't send them far.

              Wolf's can't activate quite as fast, and doesn't affect his vertical momentum at all. It does reflect projectiles, and deals damage, but its mechanics are very different.

              All in all, it appears the clones have been nicely decloned, even if they haven't been made completely unique. So I'm happy.

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              • Silvuh
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                • Apr 2005
                • 938

                #1912
                Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                Originally posted by zidart
                the roster is perfect IMO the clones really look like they have differences this time arround
                Reading about the differences between Ness and Lucas on the official site was pretty neat, but I don't know if that's an excuse when the clone actually is a clone, i.e., the same character. I wonder how different the two Links will be this time. The only think I'll miss about Young Link is his Lon Lon Milk taunt. And wall kicking, but I always died when I tried doing that.

                Originally posted by Relambrien
                more "clone" differences
                Ooo, neat. Glad they're putting more effort in to the characters.
                Last edited by Silvuh; 02-6-2008, 09:08 PM.

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                • tsugomaru
                  FFR Player
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 3962

                  #1913
                  Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                  Ephraim doesn't count. He sucked.

                  A lot.

                  Besides that, it's very hard to make every single awesome character or main lord have a varying move-set from each other because they all either use the same weapon or they attack very much in the same way, a fast forward stab. Even Ephraim had a fast forward stab.

                  ~Tsugomaru
                  Originally posted by Hiluluk
                  WHEN do you think people die...?
                  When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                  When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                  When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                  IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                  • Squeek
                    let it snow~
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 14444

                    #1914
                    Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                    First week sales numbers are in.

                    In four days, Brawl sold 820,000 units in Japan.

                    Compare that to the total sales of Melee at 1.4 million. Already over half of them.

                    The rumors were that the shortages would mean only 400-500,000 units on-hand at first. Looks like that was false.

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                    • GamerShadow
                      FFR Player
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2534

                      #1915
                      Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                      I'm probably going to main in Meta-Knight and Bowser, and play others as I see fit.

                      By the way, have characters gotten better/worse from melee, and if so, which ones?
                      Note to self Finish.

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                      • Matthew4444
                        FFR Player
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 139

                        #1916
                        Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                        I thought the rumour was that if Sumabura X was released on its original release date, then there would be shortages.
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                        I am also known as TheDarkNerd, if that makes any difference.

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                        • zidart
                          FFR Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 964

                          #1917
                          Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                          Originally posted by tsugomaru
                          Ephraim doesn't count. He sucked.

                          A lot.

                          Besides that, it's very hard to make every single awesome character or main lord have a varying move-set from each other because they all either use the same weapon or they attack very much in the same way, a fast forward stab. Even Ephraim had a fast forward stab.

                          ~Tsugomaru
                          idk about you but ephraim was a nice addition to the FE series... and even though most of them use swords some use very different weapons. (hector an axe, micaiah white magic, princess elinicia a staff)

                          the sales are better than expected, it's gonna surpass melee for sure.

                          weird in the dojo page they didn't say that if marth's final miss then he dies

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                          • tsugomaru
                            FFR Player
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 3962

                            #1918
                            Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                            His story line wasn't as cool as the others. My point would be, if we used a lot of the other FE main lords, we would have Super Fire Emblem Main Lord Brawls instead of SSBB.

                            ~Tsugomaru
                            Originally posted by Hiluluk
                            WHEN do you think people die...?
                            When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                            When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                            When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                            IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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                            • Matthew4444
                              FFR Player
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 139

                              #1919
                              Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                              You know what? An FE character fighting game would actually probably be fun. I could imagine possibly a doujinsoft game for it or something.
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                              I am also known as TheDarkNerd, if that makes any difference.

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                              • tsugomaru
                                FFR Player
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 3962

                                #1920
                                Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

                                No, it just wouldn't be the same as playing the actual Fire Emblem or the SSBB game. I'd like a brawl to involve characters from more than one game, not just one franchise. Besides, there are already programs that allow you to make your FE brawl.

                                ~Tsugomaru
                                Originally posted by Hiluluk
                                WHEN do you think people die...?
                                When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
                                When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
                                When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
                                IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!

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