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  • uselessaccount
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    • Jan 2007
    • 1580

    #136
    Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

    Well first of all you brought back a overused topic from way long ago. Also Hurricane Chris is not Gangsta Rap. And the majority of Nelly, Eminem, Bobby Valentino, and even a lot of Chris Brown's songs portray negative messages for kids like sex and for Eminem a various spectrum of things. That's not to say it isn't good music, it's just that it might be going a bit to far to say that kids are nourished by it.

    I see where your going about the creative thing too and it's quite valid. Also, on the downside, many people just follow the example of the artist or try to mimic their lifestyle rather than find their own person through the music.
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    • arsonistsgetallthegirls
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      • Jun 2007
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      #137
      Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

      Of course rap music is a bad influence on kids... In fact, any song, game, movie, book, ect, dealing with an "inappropriate" subject matter will be viewed by some as a bad influence on kids. There is no question that children are more sensitive at an impressionable age... The question is, to what extent does it actually become significant enough to affect the child's sense of what's wrong and right?

      Hmm, actually, the world has basically proved otherwise huh...
      Some kids NEED to wake the **** up.
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      • Sullyman2007
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        • Jan 2007
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        #138
        Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

        Originally posted by coolade123
        Is rap music a bad influence on kids these days? I, personally, disagree with that, I wouldn't listen/do what the lyrics say in those songs. Of course most rap songs have some "bad" lyrics but I don't think most kids would necessarily do what they say.

        Discuss.
        I never really cared for rap. The lyrics are generally very explicit, and it normally expresses bad situations, but that dosent mean it IS bad, thats just my opinion.
        SOME rap is quite good. It comes from the heart and soul, and its a creative way of expressing ones thought through music.
        Some of it is complete garbage. Especially alot of the stuff these days. I wouldnt even call some of it "music". It dosent have a rhyme scheme, and probably repeats the same thing over and over again, with no meaning intended.
        I think alot of rap, especially in todays age, is a bad influence. Not just on kids and teens, but adults as well. I hope I dont sound to biased...


        Its the same thing with Rock to. Three words: Sex, Drugs, and Rock&Roll.
        Last edited by Sullyman2007; 12-4-2007, 09:21 PM.

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        • rzr
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          • Oct 2007
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          #139
          Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

          Though I am a rock fan (sully) I agree with you. "is hell just a place I call home?"
          That's a fantastic quote from but a mere rap song. The expression of the music and way it's presented does not contradict its meaning. It does diminish it, but as we are all intelligent men and women here we should be able to read between the lines of even horendous rap scenerios and see the good in it as well.

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          • g4z33b0
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            • Mar 2006
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            #140
            Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

            I find it hard to unterstand the logic behind claiming that an entire genre of music, minus "a few songs" or "some rap", is a bad influence on kids. Rap is music, and although quite a few songs may be considered bad influences, you have to look past the commercialized few and consider the fact that there are thousands of rap artists out there who aren't spreading messages that could be considered negative. To call rap music a bad influence on kids is quite an ignorant opinion.

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            • devonin
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              • Apr 2004
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              #141
              Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

              To call rap music a bad influence on kids is quite an ignorant opinion.
              I'm pretty sure that we've been fairly specific when describing what kind of rap music we're talking about, and while there are thousands of less publicized, less popular rap artists singing about whatever, we've been pointing to the highly successful minority and describing that a reasonably large number of those have messages with fairly negative connotations. From that we are asking the question about whether the popularity of music with such a commonly negative message is having a negative impact on the younger more impressionable listeners.

              I'm not seeing much ignorance there.

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              • Corbin Wells
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                • Nov 2007
                • 153

                #142
                Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                Rap is not a musical genre it's a singing style, if you listen to some slipknot songs you can hear the singer kind of rapping, Snap is a good example.

                No, hip-hop isn't a bad influence, but I personally find the image silly. You will find degrading or evil music in hip-hop just as well as Metal.

                Some Hip-Hop tends to glorify gangster while some metal tends to glorify Satanism, but it's all just music and fun, anyone totally absorbed in this stuff enough to go out and try to live it in a way that can harm others or themselves clearly has terrible parents or a weak sense of reality and self control.

                I tend to lean more to the satanic metal, I ****ING LOVE IT, but I'm not in any way going to go around hunting christians or attacking the average citizen. I'm totally against violence and war (as well as religion)

                and those are my um...2 cents.
                Last edited by Corbin Wells; 12-9-2007, 10:54 AM.
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                • ELRayford
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                  #143
                  Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

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                  • foilman8805
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                    • Sep 2006
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                    #144
                    Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                    Originally posted by Corbin Wells
                    ...while metal tends to glorify Satanism...
                    That may have been the most inaccurate description of the metal genre I have ever heard. There is only a small portion of the metal genre that preaches Satanism, and I mean SMALL. You have to dig deep into Black Metal to find any of that stuff, and that's where it's typically confined to. The rest of metal isn't even remotely related to Satanism; however, it suffers the same stereotype because of blatantly misrepresentative statements like 'metal tends to glorify Satanism'. Do you know how many Christian metal bands are out there singing about God? More than there are singing about Satan, I will tell you that much. I'm in no way religious, but you might as well say that metal tends to glorify God.

                    I can't say so much about Hip-Hop, because I don't listen to it and I don't know the scene very well, but I'll place a bet that most people would disagree with the genre portraying the 'gangster' image. It is a small portion that does so - but it's that portion that gets all of the attention and negative criticism - same with metal.

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                    • Corbin Wells
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #145
                      Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                      Originally posted by foilman8805
                      That may have been the most inaccurate description of the metal genre I have ever heard. There is only a small portion of the metal genre that preaches Satanism, and I mean SMALL. You have to dig deep into Black Metal to find any of that stuff, and that's where it's typically confined to. The rest of metal isn't even remotely related to Satanism; however, it suffers the same stereotype because of blatantly misrepresentative statements like 'metal tends to glorify Satanism'. Do you
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                      • blindreper1179
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                        • Jun 2006
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                        #146
                        Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                        haven't read anything, but here's my opinion.

                        rap, metal, games, anything has no bad influence. they can talk about whatever they want, but actually doing what they say or do is your own fault. you know what is right and what is wrong. do the right thing, listen to what you listen to, not do what you listen to.
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                        • Magic187
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                          • Jun 2007
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                          #147
                          Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                          It depends on what kind of rap it is.
                          I guess christian rap would not be too bad, unless you are athiest, since christian values are generally "good".
                          But mainstream rap has corrupted our young public and has made this generation think that it is normal to do deameaning things to women and do drugs, alchohol, etc. Rap also has made people think that material things and money are more important than anything else.
                          It has made many people braggarts as well, notice how 1 out of 3 songs 'sings' about how much/many money/hoes/cars/chains/etc. they have?
                          It's wrong what we have made normal in our communities.

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                          • iPatcH
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                            • Dec 2004
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                            #148
                            Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                            Rap is as bad of an influence on kids as violent video games.

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                            • eVo_CaNtToUcH
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                              • Jun 2006
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                              #149
                              Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                              Ok well ill say this for rap yes i belive it does have some influence on kids/young adults. But the point of the matter is that rap is not like it used to be either. Now its all about cars, hoes, money. Before in the 90's it was real. It talked about everyday life and the struggle on the street. Listen to Tupac's old stuff and Biggie's its about their life and their hardships that they have had to go through. I dont know if anyone here actually understands what the streets are and if they have actually lived in the streets. Im from Chicago and i have had plenty of friends from the inner city i have stayed plenty of nights down there and it isnt good. But "white people dont give a ****" the cops just kick the **** out of them. Ya it is true they do shoot each other up everyday but its just because thats the way they have lived since they were born. They have never had a life unless you call gangs and drugs a life. All they basically have is a gun and themselves. Most of their parents dont give two sh***. Its sad instead of us actually helping them out we just ignore it. Sometimes music for them is what keeps them going keeps them mentally strong for the life thats out their for them. Now rap is alot less meaningless. The only person i can really say talks about everyday life is eminem. What rappers like that say is true it comes from the heart and it comes from what they have seen. So maybe rap is a bad influence to some people but for them its just simply "life".
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                              • Custommadeboy
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                                • Jul 2006
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                                #150
                                Re: Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

                                As in all music, its a big impact on free speech and movements made worldwide through teens and kids themselves.
                                What they sing about and what they pose in their videos are what some kids look up to when its a famous "idol"
                                I enjoy rap music, but i ignore 80% of the rappers fake hood moments and bad "acts" of getting shot and involved in crime.
                                getting a little off topic there.

                                They cuss, suggest drugs, suggest gangs. and alot of people who listen to REAL rap, not stupid 50 cent and major bands. People like Mac Dre,Tupac,Woodie,X-Raided. REAL rap music with REAL people with REAL events they've gone through.
                                Rap is a big influence and it does have an effect on kids. but as the same as any other suggestive materials or anything, negative realted. Kids will still DO IT, unless there mature enough to understand what there listening too, and that 80% of rappers encourage kids NOT to do what they do, even though they sing about it.

                                Rap will always be here but as years pass by it will diteraete into underground such as pop in 1900's. All music passes and relizes the new stuff.

                                hopefully techno and turntabilism will be the next step.

                                not saying i'm a big fan of rap (cause i really am) people need to be introduced into different genres before they can call themselves experts on music. [/off-topic]

                                Taking away rap wont do anything, but so far censoring is working fine in some cases but nothing will stop unless it IS completley removed

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