Why are you Agnostic?

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  • OrganisM
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2006
    • 2644

    #31
    Re: Why are you Agnostic?

    So you're going to say that God exists because our body is complex? That's a ridiculous notion.
    .

    Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
    "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
    because the venom gets into the blood stream which
    spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
    changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

    Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


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    MrRubix[link]:
    "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

    Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
    "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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    • fido123
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 4245

      #32
      Re: Why are you Agnostic?

      Originally posted by OrganisM
      So you're going to say that God exists because our body is complex? That's a ridiculous notion.

      Thats just one reason. I just find that this universe couldn't have been created by random chance.

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      • Verruckter
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2004
        • 2707

        #33
        Re: Why are you Agnostic?

        Originally posted by JasonKey
        I am shocked to actually agree with a Tokzic post ...

        Atheism is faith. Extreme faith actually. As extreme as any bible thumping zealot on TV shouting about their flavor of the day.

        Agnosticism admits one is open minded and undecided... if somewhat apathetic even to the actual answer.
        I wouldn't call it exactly faith, but something much alike, and just as strong. To accept that there is no meaning to life other than what we can feel or touch is a pretty big deal.
        Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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        • Sequal
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2007
          • 186

          #34
          Re: Why are you Agnostic?

          thats your opinion on it though. why did you conclude your opinion that way, some may ask. it really doesnt matter. thats the same thing religion does to you. So the question is, why do you have faith in this religion. or why do you have faith at all? why the **** should any of us care? we are all different yet the same. so look at it this way. there are many different religions, but they all lead up to the same thing later on. How is that thing there?

          I would say that Relambrien's post perfectly portrayed his situation. but How is it you dont care anymore?



          Originally posted by MixMasterLar
          Tass, you deserve something at the 20,000 mark, like a title that says "Lifeless Poster"

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          • devonin
            Very Grave Indeed
            Event Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2004
            • 10120

            #35
            Re: Why are you Agnostic?

            im not an atheist because of no proof in god, im an atheist because there is proof of no god.
            its called science.
            evolution.
            I have no problem reconciling the concepts of God and Evolution. If you think the two are mutually exclusive, then I suspect you are labouring under a misunderstanding about the nature of God.

            Example: A friend says that there is a tree in my room. There is no way he can possibly prove there is a tree in my room, therefore most people would agree that there is not a tree in my room.
            I suspect most people would agree that there was no tree because you'd provided sufficient evidence that there was no tree, -not- because he provided insufficient evidence that there was.

            Do you ever see a Christian truly leaving the nature of God or the existence of Heaven and Hell up to debate? No, they're absolute truths written in a man-made book. Somebody told somebody and somebody wrote things down about somebody else who saw somebody else do something and stuff happen two thousand years ago. Okay, it must have been true.
            I see good Christians who are reasonable and rational about their faith do this all the time. Pointing to people who claim the bible is universally infallible and the direct, factual word of God from genesis to revelations and somehow saying that this is representative of the whole faith (When for example, personages such as Pope John Paul II have -stated- that the bible is not literally factual throughout) is to strawman their faith incredibly.

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            • ShAiOnEi
              FFR Player
              • May 2007
              • 1110

              #36
              Re: Why are you Agnostic?

              I believe in god whoever it might be. In my view of god isn't associated with the bible or any other religion just the simple fact that there is a creator of ourselves and the universe which when we die everything will be revealed, the absolute truth.
              Last edited by ShAiOnEi; 09-26-2007, 08:33 PM.
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              • Sequal
                FFR Player
                • Feb 2007
                • 186

                #37
                Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                im happy you feel that way. faith isnt bad, but if it isnt bad, then it isnt good.



                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                Tass, you deserve something at the 20,000 mark, like a title that says "Lifeless Poster"

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                • ShAiOnEi
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1110

                  #38
                  Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                  Originally posted by Sequal
                  im happy you feel that way. faith isnt bad, but if it isnt bad, then it isnt good.
                  I believe deep down inside that if anyone looked hard enough we would understand that in the end no matter what we believed or believe now you can't deny the fact of a higher existence. I have faith and I'm sure we have a deeper reason for existing than just scientific theories.

                  Edit: I think this should be moved to critical thinking.
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                  • Sequal
                    FFR Player
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 186

                    #39
                    Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                    if you think about it though. Religion is just a theory. you have expanded your mind toward religion. ill set an example.

                    God cast Satan, one of his loyal angels at side, to a place of sorry. Why?

                    now how about you get deeper inside your mind.

                    Satan cast God, one of his loyal angels at side, to a place of sorry. Why?

                    there are two sides of a story. not just one. if you make an outlook on things, you learn more. some people find that science is more to the truth. other see religion as the all time purpose. what about in between? LIFE. Life is the greatest purpose in my opinion. you dont need to chose a side of life's story, but it doesnt hurt to know both sides. in the end it will help you conclude your thoughts about what will happen beyond the grave. as i always say, Life is a Game, one Card, one Play.



                    Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                    Tass, you deserve something at the 20,000 mark, like a title that says "Lifeless Poster"

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                    • ShAiOnEi
                      FFR Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 1110

                      #40
                      Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                      Originally posted by Sequal
                      if you think about it though. Religion is just a theory. you have expanded your mind toward religion. ill set an example.

                      God cast Satan, one of his loyal angels at side, to a place of sorry. Why?

                      now how about you get deeper inside your mind.

                      Satan cast God, one of his loyal angels at side, to a place of sorry. Why?

                      there are two sides of a story. not just one. if you make an outlook on things, you learn more. some people find that science is more to the truth. other see religion as the all time purpose. what about in between? LIFE. Life is the greatest purpose in my opinion. you dont need to chose a side of life's story, but it doesnt hurt to know both sides. in the end it will help you conclude your thoughts about what will happen beyond the grave. as i always say, Life is a Game, one Card, one Play.
                      I don't believe in heaven or hell. Whether or not the bible is true in any fashion I do not dwell on the stories written in it. I simply believe in a higher existence that is all.
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                      • Sequal
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 186

                        #41
                        Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                        that isnt what i was trying to portray to you, im sorry i failed doing that. what i was trying to say, is expand your mind away from that higher purpose. maybe look into different subjects. Look into Heaven and Hell. they are very interesting to here about. My opinion on heaven and hell is, Heaven and Hell are what you make of them.



                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        Tass, you deserve something at the 20,000 mark, like a title that says "Lifeless Poster"

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                        • ShAiOnEi
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 1110

                          #42
                          Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                          Originally posted by Sequal
                          that isnt what i was trying to portray to you, im sorry i failed doing that. what i was trying to say, is expand your mind away from that higher purpose. maybe look into different subjects. Look into Heaven and Hell. they are very interesting to here about. My opinion on heaven and hell is, Heaven and Hell are what you make of them.
                          I have expanded my mind trust me on this. To me it seems that your mind is closed off towards up and down, right and wrong, heaven and hell. It is what you make of them I agree and in my opinion I would not consider that on the other side it's so simple that there is only two worlds. Heaven and Hell is only a perception so open your mind up I ask and look beyond yourself. A good soul will live his own way of life and a bad soul his way.
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                          • OrganisM
                            FFR Player
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2644

                            #43
                            Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                            Originally posted by fido123
                            Thats just one reason. I just find that this universe couldn't have been created by random chance.
                            Yeah, because improbability = impossibility.
                            .

                            Originally Posted by jewpinthethird[link]:
                            "If you get stung by enough bees you turn into a bee,
                            because the venom gets into the blood stream which
                            spreads bee DNA throughout your entire body...
                            changing your genetic structure into a bee's.

                            Every year roughly 125 people in America are turned into bees this way."


                            Originally Posted by
                            MrRubix[link]:
                            "Do you basically bukkake-paint your walls every time you jack it?"

                            Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz[link]:
                            "My pity-sex depreciates at a rate of 5% annually."

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                            • Lucifericrucifix
                              Pathogen.
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 80

                              #44
                              Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                              I don't believe in a third party (predominantly mythological) determining your actions and life despite how it's influenced modern day law, and things of that nature. I don't see it useful in the context of organized religion. I'm Agnostic per se' because I don't know all and I can't say there isn't a God, such would be as guilty as strictly believing there is one and I don't know everything, therefore I reuse to believe I do. If there is, cool, if not, cool too. Personally, it's not something that bothers me or something I really even care much towards.

                              The concept of Heaven and Hell is a bit ridiculous, and I don't truly believe in that either unless it's simple context that being, action/reaction in a more realistic sense that relate more to morality than eternal damnation, or some mythological thing.

                              In the end, I'm really just against Organized Religion, so I end up here after proper thought and all the like.
                              "What is good? All that heightens the feeling of power in man, the will to power, power itself. What is bad? All that is born of weakness. What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome."

                              -Friedrich Nietzsche

                              "Faith in God is absurd, since it is impossible to know, or understand His purpose."

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                              • ledwix
                                Giant Pi Operator
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 2878

                                #45
                                Re: Why are you Agnostic?

                                Originally posted by OrganisM
                                Yeah, because improbability = impossibility.
                                i don't think he's talking about 1/10 improbability. more like 10^-40,000 improbability.

                                i'm not agnostic, but i think it would be one of the most respectable positions to take.

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