Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[Shamo0]

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I simply made an observation but yet you keep bringing the same point up. Sorry, if I use the actual name for the actual maneuver. Golly, who ever would do such a thing.

And yes we know when you roll backwards you still face the way you were facing. It sounds to me like you think I solely rely on wavedashing. When I was merely pointing something out. Sup being closeminded lawl?


And using the word dodging when it's already in the game as something else and actually called dodging isn't the smartest. As it can be confused which it was because rolling and dodging are two completely different things. The people who care are the people who want to know if it was a wavedash or not. You clearly do not, but you continue to show us that you have no intentions of ever caring about anything competitive, when we really don't care about what you think lol. Especially when you post like that lawl.

[ckj846]

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Exploiting a glitch in the game isn't skill. The fact you are all hyped up when you sense that the same glitch that made you a step ahead of others in Melee might be in Brawl is what is annoying squeek.

Simple.

O_o

[IronJesus]

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Exploiting=epic fail imo.

[Relambrien]

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I get somewhat annoyed when people call wavedashing a "glitch." An exploit, yes, but all the systems involved are working exactly as intended.

The game is built so that residual momentum from landing is transferred into motion on the ground. You can air dodge at any point in the air. Wavedashing/landing simply combines the two, so that you air dodge as close as possible to the ground, and the residual momentum from the dodge carries you across the ground. Everything works. A "glitch" is when systems fail to work in the way they're intended. All the systems are working, they're just being combined to create the wavedashing effect.

Granted, it's not really that big of an issue. But "exploiting a glitch" sounds a lot more underhanded than "exploiting physics mechanics," which is what wavedashing does. Just a pet peeve of mine, that's all.

I don't really care whether or not wavedashing is brought to Brawl. It certainly makes matches in Melee a lot more fast-paced than it would be otherwise (since other types of motion are a lot slower), but I'm interested in seeing how the pace would be quickened if wavedashing didn't exist. I'll be happy either way.

[Shamo0]

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Exploiting a glitch in the game isn't skill. The fact you are all hyped up when you sense that the same glitch that made you a step ahead of others in Melee might be in Brawl is what is annoying squeek.

Simple.

O_o

If you don't want to play the way the pro players play. Don't. No one is forcing you to play the way they play. If you don't like it, that's your opinion. But complaining about it? That's completely retarded. And second off if you want to even call wavedashing a "glitch" you cannot say it doesn't require skill because it definitely does. If it didn't, a lot more people would do it if they knew about it.


Also who said I was hyped up? I simply posted about what I saw. An observation people. Ob-ser-va-tion.

[zidart]

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for me it doesn't matter recently i played with people who use wavedash and i won, there's always a way to defeat glitches.

also a good gamer always use many strategys to defeat the oponent and i don't belive someone would defeat you with only wavedash.

anyway looks like nintendo read my mind, today update, a bit more about pit's story

[dood gone krazee]

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omg... and of course i only have a PS2, so no new games for me till i get a PS3, 360, and Wii :[

[Shamo0]

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Cool intro scene for pit

[Squeek]

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If you don't want to play the way the pro players play. Don't. No one is forcing you to play the way they play. If you don't like it, that's your opinion. But complaining about it? That's completely retarded. And second off if you want to even call wavedashing a "glitch" you cannot say it doesn't require skill because it definitely does. If it didn't, a lot more people would do it if they knew about it.


Also who said I was hyped up? I simply posted about what I saw. An observation people. Ob-ser-va-tion.

I was interested a few years back. I knew I was good at the game and wanted to see how I fared against other self-proclaimed 'good' players.

Then I found out that they ban items. Then I found out that you pretty much can't win unless you wavedash. Then I decided it wasn't even worth it. If that's what it took just to have a friendly match to compare skills, then why even bother?

It's a shame, because I've never lost a match against another person. My friends refuse to play me, even 2 on 1, because they know they'll lose no matter who I choose. I do random character on random stage and let them pick whoever they want. It doesn't matter.

I said you seemed quick to point out wavedashing because it's all you ever talk about when we discuss Super Smash Bros. Also because of your enthusiasm that spewed forth in your previous post. Look back at just how much you wrote trying to convince us.

[whyudothis]

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Wow smash bros brawl looks like a pretty fun game guys.

WHATS THIS!

NO ITEMS
NO WEAPONS
1V1
FOX ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION

THIS IS HOW WE HARDCORE PLAY! THIS IS REAL FUN!

[zidart]

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what squeek says is true.
in my country nobody i knew used wavedash, in fact nobody knew about it, i went to some tournaments and no one ever done something like that.

ban items is like riping the core of the game (wich is battles full of chaos) i personally don't care about this i can win without items but still i think is more fun with them.

but well is better to see the look on your faces when i send flying someone that only used wavedash the whole fight

[Rszkwski623]

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NOOOOO!!!!!, The Elitist debate has been brought to the thread!

its rediculous how contagious it is to game forums.

[masterhickle]

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So we're back to this again, eh?

Wavedashing isn't an exploit of a glitch, if anything, it's an exploit of the game's physics if anything (as Relambrien said).

Banning items doesn't "rip the core of the game." If Nintendo didn't want us to ban items in tournaments, or ban items from even friendly matches, why did they give us the Items option menu, where we can do that?

(Closing note for now, since I'm leaving for a cookout in a few minutes...)
It took a while, but I finally got the video to load.

What MetaKnight does is one of two things, as was previously stated : a backwards roll, or a backwards wavedash. I don't know anything about MetaKnight's physics, but if his are anything like Kirby's are in Melee, then it is more likely a backwards roll.

[ckj846]

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If you don't want to play the way the pro players play. Don't. No one is forcing you to play the way they play. If you don't like it, that's your opinion. But complaining about it? That's completely retarded. And second off if you want to even call wavedashing a "glitch" you cannot say it doesn't require skill because it definitely does. If it didn't, a lot more people would do it if they knew about it.


Also who said I was hyped up? I simply posted about what I saw. An observation people. Ob-ser-va-tion.

Where am I complaining? I was trying to help you out in your confusion and your rage against Squeek. I'm not the tightly wound up one ready to snap, you are. Chill man.

O_o

[masterhickle]

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Where am I complaining? I was trying to help you out in your confusion and your rage against Squeek. I'm not the tightly wound up one ready to snap, you are. Chill man.

O_o

The only way that you're complaining, as I see it, is that you disagree with a lot of players agreeing that wavedashing is legitimate, item bans are legitimate, etc etc.

However, I agree that ShamoO needs to chill out.

Neither way can be said for sure which is better, but we can still argue our positions.