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  • metalnddrizeffinlyf6661
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2007
    • 3

    #121
    Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

    Originally posted by MrsJoshuaOlds
    ...NO.

    He is Legend
    Zao
    As I Lay Dying
    Becoming the Archetype
    Norma Jean

    And the heavier songs by Project 86 and Criss Angel.
    AND YES CRISS ANGEL AS IN ILLUSIONIST CRISS ANGEL. GO LISTEN TO HIS STUFF. IT'S WICKED.

    </caps>
    yay. ha, i <3333 as i lay dying, huge fan.
    OH for other fans
    a new song called 'within destruction' is out
    on their page...like now.
    AS I LAY DYING's profile including the latest music, albums, songs, music videos and more updates.

    go listen metal lovers <3

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    • Kamunt
      FFR Player
      • May 2005
      • 372

      #122
      Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

      ....Who. The ****. Cares. What sub-sub-subgenre. Your metal. Is.

      NO ONE. So stop arguing like a bunch of 9-year-olds over Pokémon cards. (i.e. Me back in the day. I swear, that was my friiking holographic 1st Edition Ditto, and THEY ALL KNEW THAT!!.) Power metal, Death metal, the growlings, Power death metal, Death power metal, Diarrhea metal, Twinkies metal, Rustycoathanger metal, who honestly cares. I do like metal, and I do like learning about (sub-)subgenres and their intricacies and differences from others, but enough is enough. Damn.

      And honestly, I still don't know what "hardcore" rock (or, it can then be inferred, punk or metal) is exactly. It's very easy for me to tell with Electronic(a), what's "hardcore" and what isn't, but here in Rock, everyone's so obsessed with their own little slice of genre-Nazi heaven that the genre boundaries are even clear-cut anymore, because genres are overlapping based on either side's claims. Stupid stupid. Not that bickering doesn't happen in Electronica, but things seem to be more clear/divided in there than in here... Maybe I just don't get it or something like that..seeing as how I'm not nearly as die-hard a Roc--excuse me, Metal fan as anyone else here...
      Professional Dubstep Hater

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      • metalnddrizeffinlyf6661
        FFR Player
        • Jul 2007
        • 3

        #123
        Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

        Originally posted by Kamunt
        ....Who. The ****. Cares. What sub-sub-subgenre. Your metal. Is.

        NO ONE. So stop arguing like a bunch of 9-year-olds over Pokémon cards. (i.e. Me back in the day. I swear, that was my friiking holographic 1st Edition Ditto, and THEY ALL KNEW THAT!!.) Power metal, Death metal, the growlings, Power death metal, Death power metal, Diarrhea metal, Twinkies metal, Rustycoathanger metal, who honestly cares. I do like metal, and I do like learning about (sub-)subgenres and their intricacies and differences from others, but enough is enough. Damn.

        And honestly, I still don't know what "hardcore" rock (or, it can then be inferred, punk or metal) is exactly. It's very easy for me to tell with Electronic(a), what's "hardcore" and what isn't, but here in Rock, everyone's so obsessed with their own little slice of genre-Nazi heaven that the genre boundaries are even clear-cut anymore, because genres are overlapping based on either side's claims. Stupid stupid. Not that bickering doesn't happen in Electronica, but things seem to be more clear/divided in there than in here... Maybe I just don't get it or something like that..seeing as how I'm not nearly as die-hard a Roc--excuse me, Metal fan as anyone else here...
        jesus christ thank u god. I was gonna say the same thing but
        i thought ppl were gonna b all bitchy about it
        and i rly didnt wanna hear...well read/hearabout all that.
        I mean I'm a fan of metal I srsly am, but every ****in time i
        see a blog that talks about it.
        People are always arguing what's really "metal" & what is
        cuz ppl have their own interpretations of the genre :/.
        *sighs*
        I agree w/ u 572436789562344637 percent.
        haha, im a fan of electronica/techno as well, i hear nobody
        arguing over what's REALLY techno or w/e.
        Well yeah, totally agree w/ u man.
        <3
        stay (sic) all,
        ToKen

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        • -paexaea-
          Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
          • Apr 2007
          • 4610

          #124
          Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

          Epic Fail.
          See you, Space Cowboy.

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          • Verruckter
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2004
            • 2707

            #125
            Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

            Indeed. Categorizing metal bands helps you know what bands sound like what. That was you don't say "Oh, I like metal" and your friend goes "Yes, but then again? Does it have keyboards? Orchestration? Fast guitars? Blast beats? Growling vocals?"

            I don't want to play Guess Who? when I'm talking about metal.
            Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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            • Magnum13
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2006
              • 311

              #126
              Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

              Originally posted by MrsJoshuaOlds
              ...NO.

              He is Legend
              Zao
              As I Lay Dying
              Norma Jean



              </caps>

              Wow, i'm a fan of all those bands! My brother toured with Norma jean once
              There are nO suBliminal mEssages in mY foruM signaturE

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              • -paexaea-
                Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
                • Apr 2007
                • 4610

                #127
                Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                Originally posted by Verruckter
                Indeed. Categorizing metal bands helps you know what bands sound like what. That was you don't say "Oh, I like metal" and your friend goes "Yes, but then again? Does it have keyboards? Orchestration? Fast guitars? Blast beats? Growling vocals?"

                I don't want to play Guess Who? when I'm talking about metal.
                That's the whole point of genres. So people don't get confused. Not all metal sounds the same, so you need those kinds of labels to differenciate between each.
                See you, Space Cowboy.

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                • Verruckter
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 2707

                  #128
                  Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                  Originally posted by -paexaea-
                  That's the whole point of genres. So people don't get confused. Not all metal sounds the same, so you need those kinds of labels to differenciate between each.
                  Yeah... that's exactly what I said in my post. even though my grammar sucked.
                  Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
                  Image removed for size violation.

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                  • Kamunt
                    FFR Player
                    • May 2005
                    • 372

                    #129
                    Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                    Originally posted by -paexaea-
                    Godly Fail.
                    Fixed, because I'm getting damn tired of "epic" everything.

                    Originally posted by Verruckter
                    Indeed. Categorizing metal bands helps you know what bands sound like what. That was you don't say "Oh, I like metal" and your friend goes "Yes, but then again? Does it have keyboards? Orchestration? Fast guitars? Blast beats? Growling vocals?"

                    I don't want to play Guess Who? when I'm talking about metal.
                    This may be so, I'll give you that, but...now, I'm just gesticulating here, trying my best to just be looking for information from an uninformed, third-party view, but does every single song any given metal band produces sound the same way, with all of the same qualities and general characteristics that would make it so you can call them "This metal" or "That metal"? The only metal band (thus far) that I own more than one album of, aside from System of a Down, which NO ONE seems to be able to agree upon, is Metallica, and the two albums are Metallica and Kill 'Em All. Now, to me the two albums sound very different, where as "Metallica" seems to be more production-ized, heavy and melodic, with generally not-too-fast songs, "Kill" seems to have a large amount of double-time drumbeats, etc. along with lots of general song stylings that were absent from "Metallica". Are those two albums still considered the same subgenre of metal even if they sound so different? Because that doesn't make sense to me at all if they are.

                    Plus, what if the band itself claims they're such-and-such, but often seem to play this-and-that but almost equally often seem to sound like such-and-such, etcetera etc.? You all can genre-Nazi all you want, but I for one will judge each band, each album, and each song by the music they play and how good or bad it is, not by the labels they're given.
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                    • Verruckter
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 2707

                      #130
                      Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                      Originally posted by Kamunt
                      Fixed, because I'm getting damn tired of "epic" everything.



                      This may be so, I'll give you that, but...now, I'm just gesticulating here, trying my best to just be looking for information from an uninformed, third-party view, but does every single song any given metal band produces sound the same way, with all of the same qualities and general characteristics that would make it so you can call them "This metal" or "That metal"? The only metal band (thus far) that I own more than one album of, aside from System of a Down, which NO ONE seems to be able to agree upon, is Metallica, and the two albums are Metallica and Kill 'Em All. Now, to me the two albums sound very different, where as "Metallica" seems to be more production-ized, heavy and melodic, with generally not-too-fast songs, "Kill" seems to have a large amount of double-time drumbeats, etc. along with lots of general song stylings that were absent from "Metallica". Are those two albums still considered the same subgenre of metal even if they sound so different? Because that doesn't make sense to me at all if they are.

                      Plus, what if the band itself claims they're such-and-such, but often seem to play this-and-that but almost equally often seem to sound like such-and-such, etcetera etc.? You all can genre-Nazi all you want, but I for one will judge each band, each album, and each song by the music they play and how good or bad it is, not by the labels they're given.
                      Of course the only way to judge a band is by listening to it. But labels, as I've said before, save you the trouble of playing "Guess Who?" with your friends trying to find their musical tastes or what band could please them.

                      Don't forget that band's don't have to restrain themselves to excluslively one genre, they can play just about anything they like, thus one album can be labeled thrash, another heavy, etc.

                      Also to say that every metal song "produces sound in the same way" is incredibly wrong. Metal comes under any form, variation or root. Every band can have his unique sound that distinguishes it from all the others. It would be wrong to assume that, for example, Opeth sounds like Iron Maiden or Children of Bodom sounds like Blind Guardian. Yes, they have somewhat the same roots, but it varies a lot from one band to another.

                      P.S. Most metalheads actually enojoy labeling and defining the caracteristics of metal.
                      Last edited by Verruckter; 07-22-2007, 08:32 PM.
                      Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged
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                      • BluE_MeaniE
                        FFR Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 796

                        #131
                        Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                        Originally posted by Kamunt
                        Fixed, because I'm getting damn tired of "epic" everything.



                        This may be so, I'll give you that, but...now, I'm just gesticulating here, trying my best to just be looking for information from an uninformed, third-party view, but does every single song any given metal band produces sound the same way, with all of the same qualities and general characteristics that would make it so you can call them "This metal" or "That metal"? The only metal band (thus far) that I own more than one album of, aside from System of a Down, which NO ONE seems to be able to agree upon, is Metallica, and the two albums are Metallica and Kill 'Em All. Now, to me the two albums sound very different, where as "Metallica" seems to be more production-ized, heavy and melodic, with generally not-too-fast songs, "Kill" seems to have a large amount of double-time drumbeats, etc. along with lots of general song stylings that were absent from "Metallica". Are those two albums still considered the same subgenre of metal even if they sound so different? Because that doesn't make sense to me at all if they are.

                        Plus, what if the band itself claims they're such-and-such, but often seem to play this-and-that but almost equally often seem to sound like such-and-such, etcetera etc.? You all can genre-Nazi all you want, but I for one will judge each band, each album, and each song by the music they play and how good or bad it is, not by the labels they're given.
                        -All the subgenres of metal can be traced back together pretty simply genealogically.
                        -They're held together much like metal in general with a number of characteristics, one of which being already part of a scene or genre.
                        -Therefore, a power metal band that releases a thrash song can still be a power metal band, for example.
                        -System of a Down is not a metal band.
                        -Yes, Metallica's self-titled and Kill 'Em All are indeed different subgenres. So it's no problem.
                        -What a band claims they play is often not at all what they play. Motorhead is not rock and roll.
                        -Saying people judge solely on genre labels and not on the actual music is a blatant strawman.
                        Originally posted by Henri Poincaré
                        The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful.

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                        • Malcos
                          FFR Player
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 4

                          #132
                          Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                          Chuck Schuldiner ( Death ) could eat anybody's children.
                          Anything from the Albums "Scream Bloody Gore" to "The Sound Of Perserverance"

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                          • eeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmooo
                            FFR Player
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 6

                            #133
                            Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                            well metallica isnt the only metal band they were one of the originals though but what bout iron maiden or pantera or umm well there is just so many original metal bands also black sabath cream and motorhead true i am tired of music being labled as this metal that metal 2 me it's all just metal and i love ait all

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                            • OnixRose
                              FFR Player
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1023

                              #134
                              Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                              wow nice bump

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                              FFR should implement a form of CAPTCHA that filters out not only spambots but also retards.

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                              • Sh4d0wRe4p3r666
                                FFR Player
                                • May 2007
                                • 1441

                                #135
                                Re: Do you like Hardcore, Metal, or generally anything hard enough to eat your kids?

                                Originally posted by OnixRose
                                wow nice bump
                                It's a sticky if you've noticed. You can bump this all you want because it'll always stay right at the top.

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