Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

[MarisaKirisame]

Re: Court strikes down Internet porn law. (safe for work)

Well, non-sexuals (Who often brutally misuse the word asexual when describing themselves) are at least existing in large enough numbers to have LJ communities and so on. I've known a few myself.

Oh, there are exceptions to nearly everything.

However, I find it a little difficult to believe there is even one person who has absolutely no sexual feelings at all. Not even weak ones. I'm sure there are some, but it's difficult to believe.

I mean, there's a huge difference between "never" and "maybe a weak feeling once a month or so."

Yeah, so people who just break up and then the next day are depressed and don't want to think about anything sexual like masturbating are completely insane and should go get help.

Gotcha.

Would you shut up. It's your own fault. I should've blocked you on the forums as well, but I forgot.

[RJC50000]

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Pornography is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It can cause sexual feelings that con control and rule peoples lives. It can be traced back to almost rape cases. Honestly I think porn should be illegal.

[MarisaKirisame]

Re: Court strikes down Internet porn law. (safe for work)

Personally, I think rape cases would just go up if porn were made illegal :/ And a lot would arise just to prove a point.

[Sleaze]

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Pornography is one of the most addictive and powerful substances known to man. It can cause sexual feelings that con control and rule peoples lives. It can be traced back to almost rape cases. Honestly I think porn should be illegal.

Do you have any idea how hard it would be to take the current state of the internet and take out all pornography?

Keep the internet free! What's after pornography?
Why do you care what others do by themselves out of public?

I'm honestly surprised that the court took off their "moral" blinders and found this unconstitutional. Yay them!

[RJC50000]

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Do you have any idea how hard it would be to take the current state of the internet and take out all pornography?

Why do you care what others do by themselves out of public?

I think that Pornography should be illegal to all minors.

I dont care about what people do by themselves. But I do care what they do when pornography isn't enough and need to take there sexual experience to another level.

[devonin]

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I dont care about what people do by themselves. But I do care what they do when pornography isn't enough and need to take there sexual experience to another level.

Given how incredibly widespread the viewing of pornography is compared to the relative rarity of sex related crimes, I'm not sure where your correlation comes from.

[Sleaze]

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I dont care about what people do by themselves. But I do care what they do when pornography isn't enough and need to take there sexual experience to another level.

RJC50000 : pornography
Reefer Madness : cannabis

If anything pornography prevents sexual crimes.
If you take away pornography from the internet. Chances are they will make it themselves, assuming they already aren't.
People who can't find anyone who likes them enough to have sex with them usually will just go to pornography and do it themselves. But if you take that away from them they could just snap and eventually lead themselves to rape.

Just a thought.

[Windscarredfaith]

Re: Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

This would definitely cause more problems in identity theft than solve the problems of underage minors looking at pornography. Porn is so easy to find now. There's no way to prevent it.

[fido123]

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People should be given the option to look at pornography but personally I frown upon the idea. I have never watched any porn even though some time I really want to. I'm really stereotypically Christian when it comes to sex. Only have sex with one person and keep your mind pure. I started believing in keeping my mind pure when I found out my friend was literally addicted (still is) to porn. It effects his life but I don't think any less of him or anything as I know it it's in our instincts to have sex in our teenage years.

So really I think the way that law is now is great where you have the choice to watch porn but parents can block it from your children.

[devonin]

Re: Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

So...you are denying yourself something that you sometimes really want to do. You are stating that it is -part of your nature- (The nature that was created by God) to want to do something...but it is "pure" to deny yourself something you were -created by God- to want?

[Relambrien]

Re: Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

So...you are denying yourself something that you sometimes really want to do. You are stating that it is -part of your nature- (The nature that was created by God) to want to do something...but it is "pure" to deny yourself something you were -created by God- to want?

Not that I can speak for anyone, but my guess is that these "impure" desires were supposedly created as trials or tests of faith (in the eyes of some strict Christians).

[devonin]

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Yeah, they coudln't possibly be created to encourage the species to reproduce and thus not go extinct. That would be craziness. Also...I'm sorry but isn't that a little unfair? "I'm going to create you in -my- image, but I'm also going to make you desperately want to do some things that I will expressely forbid you from doing, just to see how much you really -want- salvation"

If this is the case, God sounds rather like a Jackass to me.

[Master_of_the_Faster]

Re: Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

Yeah, they coudln't possibly be created to encourage the species to reproduce and thus not go extinct. That would be craziness. Also...I'm sorry but isn't that a little unfair? "I'm going to create you in -my- image, but I'm also going to make you desperately want to do some things that I will expressely forbid you from doing, just to see how much you really -want- salvation"

If this is the case, God sounds rather like a Jackass to me.

Hahaha, that's the type of god I see in the eyes of certain religious people. Why even bother to worship such a god if you can't even have any freedom? I mean even if we are some "children" of god or something, that doesn't make us obligated to be slaves to this god. Children aren't slaves to their parents (atleast they shouldn't be if they are) and make their own decisions eventually. We aren't meant to be some bird in a cage for ever being kept slave to any tyrant god.

Edit: Also, I agree that it's rare to find any connection with porn and any crimes such as rape or anything else. We need some sort of evidence that the same person who looked at porn is the exact same person who commited some crime such as rape. Even still, how would we know that porn is really what set this criminal off to do what ever? I mean this person might have already had the idea of commiting some crime before they even saw any image on the internet. If there is no connection between porn and a crime, then by banning porn, the only thing people are doing is just limiting free speech without cause.

[OrganisM]

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Whoa, guys, getting a bit off topic. That's a whole new issue.

One thing extremely crucial to this subject which nobody has brought up thus far is the effectiveness of search filters. As a child I had many experiences with filters of all kinds through school computers, and in my earliest days on the internet (ashamedly), the AOL blocks. I've found that it's extremely rare that they work properly.

And you know what? The idea that porn is a disease or should be kept from teenagers is in my mind ridiculous. I've grown up in a generation where I got my first eyeful of porn probably at age 6, started watching out of curiosity at age 9, become obsessed and addicted ages 13-15, and then dropped it because it's gotten very boring and the pure novelty of orgasm has worn off. Then I decided to facilitate communication and actually get a girlfriend, and to move on to more important things in my life. No damage done to my life. I didn't even lose my virginity until age 16, which is the legal age of consent. I am aware of a porn site that has tons of free porn, and if I want it, it's there. No obsession, no psychopathy gained. It's all a matter of how the particular person handles it. The pattern I've just mentioned is one an entire generation of teen males have gone through with the advent of internet porn. And do you see a mob of every single male aged 18 raping and murdering all in their path? I don't.

[atalkingcow]

Re: Court strikes down Internet pr0n law. (safe for work)

Whoa, guys, getting a bit off topic. That's a whole new issue.

One thing extremely crucial to this subject which nobody has brought up thus far is the effectiveness of search filters. As a child I had many experiences with filters of all kinds through school computers, and in my earliest days on the internet (ashamedly), the AOL blocks. I've found that it's extremely rare that they work properly.

And you know what? The idea that porn is a disease or should be kept from teenagers is in my mind ridiculous. I've grown up in a generation where I got my first eyeful of porn probably at age 6, started watching out of curiosity at age 9, become obsessed and addicted ages 13-15, and then dropped it because it's gotten very boring and the pure novelty of orgasm has worn off. Then I decided to facilitate communication and actually get a girlfriend, and to move on to more important things in my life. No damage done to my life. I didn't even lose my virginity until age 16, which is the legal age of consent. I am aware of a porn site that has tons of free porn, and if I want it, it's there. No obsession, no psychopathy gained. It's all a matter of how the particular person handles it. The pattern I've just mentioned is one an entire generation of teen males have gone through with the advent of internet porn. And do you see a mob of every single male aged 18 raping and murdering all in their path? I don't.

6! you got me beat by a few!
But I agree with everything you've said in that statement.

It starts as a curiousity, becomes a minor obsession, then wanes off after a few years.

Now, in response to the claim that "removing porn would lead to more rapes" and the other side "porn leads to rape", both of those statements are so incredibly false and stupid that it shames me to have read them.

You cannot say that ~ONE~ stimuli or lack thereof leads to any action of the magnitude of sexual assault/rape.

Honestly, that's like saying:

Stubbing my toe on my roommate's Xbox caused me to punch him.

Let's not mention that in this imaginary case, my roommate has been pulling pranks on me for a week, including shaving one eyebrow, dyeing me blue, and teabagging my face.

I PUNCHED HIM ~PURELY~ BECAUSE OF MY TOE!

Seriously, people need to stop looking for a ~single~ cause for everything, Life is just a wee bit more complex than that.