Why does everyone take Asperger's as a disease?

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Why does everyone take Asperger's as a disease?

To put it short, people with Asperger's are much more intelegent than the neurally typical person

Yes. And that's where I stopped reading.

[atalkingcow]

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Alright, i feel I should bust in here, and add my N00B opinion.

*Quote*The best treatment is already available, and has always been.
It's someone that's willing to accept you for what you are, and help you.

My mother wasn't that person. She only kept bringing me to the damn doctor for medications and treatments, working her ass off to pay for it, and not even bothering what was going on in my mind. Structural therapies that try to teach individuals with asperger's about society won't work. At least, a good percentage of the time, with any degree of actual improvement.


Parents just need to take some time and talk to their kids about the way they live their lives. They might even find flaws in their own ways after they hear our side of the story.*quote*

I forgot who said that, but its completely true.

My mom did the same thing, first I was "ADD" then "ODD" then "Depression" then "BiPolar".

Just bloody genius. -.-

So anyway, after they stopped shoving pills down my throat, and just let me be me, they finally figured out that I have Asperger's Syndrome.
And to be entirely honest, I like myself better when I'm off the pills and just my strange neurotic self.

Granted, its REALLY hard to get a job when you can't look your interviewer in the eye for longer than 5 seconds, and crowds tend to make me a bit paranoid, but its better then being someone I'm not.

Of course, my family still doesn't accept it, and they try to get me on a new pill every month or so, but I blame the fact that there's a new pill on the TV every month or so.

What REALLY REALLY REALLY pisses me off is that my mom is doing the same thing to my little sister, she's only 11 and she supposedly has depression, because she hates school. (STUPIDITY ALARM)

The only bad things I've experienced with Asperger's are:

I can't look anyone in the eye.
I can't have anything touching my throat, or forehead.
I'll never remember your name, unless I see you every day for a week or so.
I can't do math, ever, even addition, unless I REALLY think about it.
Something has to be moving, either my leg bouncing up and down, or my fingers rubbing each other.

The GOOD things:
I can read at a post-college level, with comprehension. (It's been tested.)
I can spell almost any word, but when I type, its not so good. (LOL)
Living Phone book, my cell's PB is empty, its all in my head.
I can summon energy from nowhere. (of course, that might be just me, idk.)
And of course, I can do anything I want, no matter how unpopular it makes me, because I don't notice the people around me unless I know them.
(This is a good thing when you're a Street Performer, or Playing DDR in the middle of a bunch of drunk morons who are trying to mess you up.[happened today])

Anyway, I said my TwoCents, even if it didn't make much sense, but then again, I think differently than most of you normies. =P

~Cow~

[Trumpetman4eva]

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That made me want to have Asperger's lol.

But seriously, I know someone with Asperger's and I didn't know and couldn't tell that they had it until they told me.

[atalkingcow]

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That made me want to have Asperger's lol.

But seriously, I know someone with Asperger's and I didn't know and couldn't tell that they had it until they told me.

You wouldn't man, it's really hard to tell unless they have it really strong, there's just little signs to look for. But then again, some of it is just people being their odd little selves, which is the problem with calling it a Disease or Illness.

And btw... someone way back was talking about an increased number of cases... that's a bunch of B.S., "doctors" are just overdiagnosing people nowadays. More money for them. =.=

[devonin]

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The only bad things I've experienced with Asperger's are:

I can't look anyone in the eye.
I can't have anything touching my throat, or forehead.
I'll never remember your name, unless I see you every day for a week or so.
I can't do math, ever, even addition, unless I REALLY think about it.
Something has to be moving, either my leg bouncing up and down, or my fingers rubbing each other.

The GOOD things:
I can read at a post-college level, with comprehension. (It's been tested.)
I can spell almost any word, but when I type, its not so good. (LOL)
Living Phone book, my cell's PB is empty, its all in my head.
I can summon energy from nowhere. (of course, that might be just me, idk.)
And of course, I can do anything I want, no matter how unpopular it makes me, because I don't notice the people around me unless I know them.

Explain to me how a single one of those can't simply be the result of "I am quite intelligent in certain areas, less so in others, and like every other person, have a few odd hang-ups"

I am a 100% case study for Aspergers, and under no circumstances would I ever, or have I ever, claimed to have it. I'm me. I have no desire to give credit for my successes to a mental disorder just as I have no desire to hide from my failings by blaming them on a mental disorder.

[jewpinthethird]

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I'm also really good at spelling, but not when I type.

I can also fly...but not while anyone is watching.

[Doug31]

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I think I have Aspergers, and I really wish I didn't. I feel like I'm missing a huge part of this world as I couldn't pay attention to a book or video or have a clue what happened in it in a million times of reading or watching it. I just completely don't understand them. I got to where I'd just do integrals and stuff like that when we watched videos in History class, since I knew it was hopeless for me to even try after a while. When I was in English class, I'd just sleep through them, and I could somehow fall asleep in about 5 seconds every time, even though I tried not to. Everyone I talk to must think I'm really weird, since I'm never looking them in the eyes, I don't pick up on any nonverbal communication, and I just feel like a total failure at it, and that I'm really not good at picking up girls, even though they're pretty much all I really care about. I'm really good at math, though, ranked 11th in the nation on the last big math test I took, plus I thought up Calculus III stuff without ever having been taught it when I was in 1st grade. I also feel like I can never stop moving, and that I'm very sensitive to light. I also often feel quite depressed.

Edit: Plus I can't remember people's names worth crap. There was this one girl that I just loved, and still do, and heard her name 3 times in a week, and still didn't know it. I usually try to remember what a name was about 5 minutes after I hear it, and usually can't, and even if I can, I won't in another 5 minutes.

[amandaissingle]

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i read about aspergers in a book by Nicholas Sparks...i don't know if this is true,but don't people withit have some routine they follow everyday...kinda like OCD?

[devonin]

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All generalisations are false.

[kaloray]

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i read about aspergers in a book by Nicholas Sparks...i don't know if this is true,but don't people withit have some routine they follow everyday...kinda like OCD?

yes, actually, a bunch of people with asperger's syndrome do have a daily routine. for example, my cousin has asperger's syndrome. he has a piece of paper on his door to remind him of what he has to do and when he has to do it.

i think people that take asperger's as a disease are simply ignorant. often times they simply do not know anything about it. if they would take the time to get to know people with asperger's they would realize they are not diseased, just think slightly different from most other people.

[devonin]

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It's a syndrome, not a disease...

Syndrome: the pattern of symptoms that characterize or indicate a particular social condition.

Disease: a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.

People who take "Aspergers Syndrome" as a disease, just don't know what words mean.

[Kilroy_x]

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Autism is considered a disorder, as are all conditions within the DSM. Disorder is pejorative.

[devonin]

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Disorder is only perjorative if you attach moral goodness to order.

[Kilroy_x]

Re: Why does everyone take Asperger's as a disease?

You misunderstand virtually the entire nature of the institution of psychology if you don't think that particular element is pervasive in conventional psychological thinking. Psychology has been used as justification for action against political subversives and deviants in general for as long as it has existed. In all fairness Erich Fromm did assert that placing desire for order above desire for life is the most detestable form of pathology, yet the modern institution of Psychology has largely not ceased to be much more than a tool for prevailing social interests.

[devonin]

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So just because as an institution, psychology places that onus on the word doesn't mean that every single person ever automatically does as well.