Homosexual Marriage

[Relambrien]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Let me show you guys something: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia

A few choice definitions:

"unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality."

"Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men."

"prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality"

"irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

So yes, if you don't like homosexuals, you are a homophobe. At least, according to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Princeton University, and Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary.

[Kilroy_x]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Taking the nature argument from a different angle, It's impossible that any human behavior or property isn't natural because human beings are in their entirety a part of nature.

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Though what of the behaviors that we've adopted that are directly contrary to the usual functioning of nature? Do they become de facto natural simply because we've used them?

[Kilroy_x]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

They are de facto nature because there is nothing in existence which is not natural. If something is contrary to the "usual functioning of nature" that means it's novel or rare, but not unnatural. Human beings have big brains because we have an advantage for that. Novelty as benefit. Camels have the ability to store water for the same reason. Things such as Sickle Cell Anemia, on the other hand, also contrary to the usual functioning of nature but this in a way which impedes survival or is non-beneficent.

However, just because something natural behaves atypically doesn't make it unnatural. It just makes it atypical.

[Melone Marshe]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Let me show you guys something: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia

A few choice definitions:

"unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality."

"Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men."

"prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality"

"irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

So yes, if you don't like homosexuals, you are a homophobe. At least, according to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Princeton University, and Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary.

A phobia is a fear (i.e. homophobe), as mentioned in all of the definitions in which mention the dislike or aversion to be fear-based. As I said before, fear can lead to dislike and even hatred...do those dictionary definitions not say the exact same thing?

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

A phobia is a fear (i.e. homophobe), as mentioned in all of the definitions in which mention the dislike or aversion to be fear-based. As I said before, fear can lead to dislike and even hatred...do those dictionary definitions not say the exact same thing?

Let me show you guys something: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/homophobia

A few choice definitions:

"unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality."

"Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men."

"prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality"

"irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"

So yes, if you don't like homosexuals, you are a homophobe. At least, according to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Princeton University, and Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary.

Lets try that again with another type of emphasis. it isn't -just- fear.

[Relambrien]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Devonin basically said it.

Homophobia, as the definitions state, is either a fear or a dislike of homosexuality, meaning that as long as at least one of the conditions (fear, dislike) is met, the term applies.

No one was saying that homophobia is only a dislike of homosexuality, only that the term applies to both fear and a dislike.

Also, where in those definitions does it say that the dislike or aversion is fear-based? Just because they're mentioned in the same sentence doesn't mean one has to cause the other. I may have this wrong, but isn't that an example of "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc?" Though that applies more towards events than the ordering of words in a sentence...

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

"Post hoc ergo propter hoc" : "in the Post Hoc fallacy you falsely conclude that because two events happened in sequence, the latter was necessarily caused by the former."

[RB_QT-kenny]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

homosexuality is just normal cuz its because it is ( Smart answer )

[Relambrien]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

"Post hoc ergo propter hoc" : "in the Post Hoc fallacy you falsely conclude that because two events happened in sequence, the latter was necessarily caused by the former."

Right, I understand that, I was just wondering if perhaps that definition could be attributed to Melone Marshe's belief that because "dislike" and "fear" were used in sequence, that the dislike was caused by fear.

Chances are I'm reading too much into it; I tend to do that.

[Aa_Doodaa]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Jeez, you start to wish that God had more room to write on those stone tablets he gave Moses. Hahaha.

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Why? We do such a horrible job of following the directives he -did- get written down. The last thing we need are christians going tl;dr

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Here's a question:

Does the Bible have any evidence to prove that Jesus was not gay? I'm curious...seeing as in his 30 years of existence, he never once got busy with one of them foxy stable maids.

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Well, he's only in the bible visibly from 1-12 and 30-33, plenty of vanished teen years to **** around in.

Also, it's theorised that you can explain his lack of visibly being married by the fact that there was a sect of scribes and learned men operating at the time of Jesus (From which comes several of the documents that made their way into the bible) who were celibate.

[super kid]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Here's a question:

Does the Bible have any evidence to prove that Jesus was not gay? I'm curious...seeing as in his 30 years of existence, he never once got busy with one of them foxy stable maids.

Thats were Mary of Magdalen comes in.