Premaritial Sex

[VampyressKyttie]

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devonin you seem to have a lot to say about other peoples views so how about you tell us all what you think.

[purebloodtexan]

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If you don't see the flaws in that logic, pointing them out again won't likely do anything, so I won't bother.

Moving right along then...To Purebloodtexan: Says who? The problem here is that you're saying "I'll do what the law says, for no reason other than the law says so" So my question is: What happens if the law changes to something you think is nonsense? Do you still do it anyway? Do you protest? Do you ignore the law?

Well, you do have a point there, but just because I'm following the law for no definite reason doesn't mean I'll just stick to it. If it gets to anything THAT nonsensical, unless I'm married and about to have a child, I'll go ahead and do the deed.

I've seen many movies, articles, etc. about rebellions, revolutions and revolts. They broke the laws as quickly as they followed them because of an unjust change in rules or the way the government runs. Although not on such a large scale, I'd probably do the same.

[devonin]

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See, the point I was trying to get at is that you -do- in fact have other reasons for agreeing with the age limit in your state. Up until just now, the only basis for your stance was "The rules tell me so" which isn't an especially compelling argument. Now that you've at least implied that you internally -agree- with the logic that says you aren't ready until that age, you've expressed your viewpoint in a much better way.

devonin you seem to have a lot to say about other peoples views so how about you tell us all what you think.

My view should be pretty obvious given the kinds of points I've raised about other people's posts. I find the vast gulf in difference between the ages at which the government has "decided" we are "ready" to do things to be patently absurd.

You're "ready" to go into the military in the US, be trained, armed and sent out to kill people for three full years before you are "ready" to drink a beer.

You're "ready" to be put behind the wheel of a multi-ton high-powered vehicle, and take it out into residential areas for -five- years before you are "ready" to drink a beer.

As of the age of -12- you are considered to be past the "Age of Reason" where you can tell fantasy from reality, and are considered reasonable and intelligent enough that your testimony is acceptable in even capital-crime law cases involving the death penalty.

It is accepted that you are intelligent, reasonable, and able to think for yourself for four years or more before you are considered "ready" to do basically everything else that has an age control? This seems absurd to me.

I made what I consider to be a perfectly reasonable and thought-out decision to have sex for the first time when I was 14. I don't regret it, I'm not ashamed of it, and I -certainly- don't think I was too young or immature to make the decision.

Obviously your mileage may vary, people become mature at different rates which is why a single age at which the law says you are "ready" is both completely arbitrary, and unfortunately the only way, short of having no age limit at all, to possibly control such things.

[purebloodtexan]

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As of the age of -12- you are considered to be past the "Age of Reason" where you can tell fantasy from reality, and are considered reasonable and intelligent enough that your testimony is acceptable in even capital-crime law cases involving the death penalty.

I thought it was 14, or is this another case of "it varies by state"?

[devonin]

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I thought it was 14, or is this another case of "it varies by state"?

Hmm...I may even have over estimated.

Age of reason, in psychology, is the age where a child is capable of carrying on complex conversation with an adult, usually around seven years but can be as high as fourteen years.

In the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches, the age, usually around seven or eight years old, when children are considered capable of understanding and participating in the sacraments.

[MRTL_mrclean17]

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Not having premarital sex is like buying a car without test-driving it first.

And this thread looks familiar... Wasn't this done before?

[VampyressKyttie]

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I made what I consider to be a perfectly reasonable and thought-out decision to have sex for the first time when I was 14. I don't regret it, I'm not ashamed of it, and I -certainly- don't think I was too young or immature to make the decision.

Obviously your mileage may vary, people become mature at different rates which is why a single age at which the law says you are "ready" is both completely arbitrary, and unfortunately the only way, short of having no age limit at all, to possibly control such things.

Ok so I'm wondering why you gave me **** for having sex at 17? Yes I regret it now because I realize I wasn't in love with him but I thought I was. We had been together for almost a year and he had asked me to marry him but he was mentally abusive. I had sex with him because at the time it felt right. After I broke up with him I feel in love with the best guy in the world. He loves me, cares for me, and treats me well. We plan on getting married after college and have been together almost 2years. With him it's not just sex it's making love, being with him makes me feel like nothing else matters and the moment is just about our love.
I don't see any flaws with what I have done or my point of view. Everyone should have sex when they are in love and feel the time is right, never before then.

[FaintScent]

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Although I'm Catholic... It wouldn't matter to me, I would just say if you really are in a deep realtionship, then go for it if you want to. Just be careful.
Benifits:
- You got laid .. Lmao
- More sexual experience?
- Something special I guess in a good realtionship.

Disadvantages:
- You didn't wait for someone who you think is the "one".
- Babies...

[jewpinthethird]

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You shouldn't have premarital sex because it makes white Jesus cry.

Seriously though, there are plenty of good arguments not to have sex before marriage...but really, if it's consensual, I don't see the harm as long as no one gets pregnant or contracts an STD (as long as they are smart about, as stated earlier in this thread).

[TheRapingDragon]

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Although I'm Catholic... It wouldn't matter to me, I would just say if you really are in a deep realtionship, then go for it if you want to. Just be careful.
Benifits:
- You got laid .. Lmao
- More sexual experience?
- Something special I guess in a good realtionship.

Those are not good reasons to have sex in a meaningful relationship. How about to deepen emotions, for trust (to give yourself to each other), for committment, for love.

Disadvantages:
- You didn't wait for someone who you think is the "one".
- Babies...

That is really bad logic. So if you don't wait until marriage then you "didn't wait for someone who you think is the "one"". What of those who believe it is the one and so they take it further and have sex.

[Pikachu655]

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to be honest if you want to be stupid go at it just when you have 10 children and you can't pay for them all DO NOT ask for my help! thats becuase you should be married before Boneing some one AND you should be married or engaged be for say the all to commonly used line: I LOVE YOU! but thats a discussion for another thread... some one should start it!

[TheRapingDragon]

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to be honest if you want to be stupid go at it just when you have 10 children and you can't pay for them all DO NOT ask for my help! thats becuase you should be married before Boneing some one AND you should be married or engaged be for say the all to commonly used line: I LOVE YOU! but thats a discussion for another thread... some one should start it!

Ok, first of all I'm trying to read what you wrote in order to address your points.

First: We would not go to you if we had children, from your posting you would be a horrible contact point, though if I ever needed someone to be able to speak in a child-like manner to my children then I'll give you a call.

Second: "Boneing" someone. Ok.

Third: You do not have to be engaged or married to love someone. Wow that is insanely bad thought processing right there. Love should not be constricted by paper, by a ceremony, or by anything apart from how you both feel towards each other. Don't be so stupid as to try to combine love and marriage as one and the same.

[ashleychauntel]

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AND you should be married or engaged be for say the all to commonly used line: I LOVE YOU! but thats a discussion for another thread... some one should start it!

Can't say I agree with that at all. Be engaged or married to tell someone that you love them - um, excuse me, that is a bit over the top. You can care about people and love people and not marry them.

As for premarital sex: I personally agree with several statements - as long as those involved are INFORMED, and they know what they are doing, in regard to how sex can can affect them emotionally, and CONSENTING to participate in sexual activity and understand the CONSEQUENCES that can be involved in regard to reproduction and STD's then premarital sex should not be a huge issue.

I do understand how religion can affect some people's choice to wait until marriage and that's fine too. BUT religious views and ties aside, premarital sex is something personal that can be shared between people that love each other and care about each other. If it feels right then who is to say it is wrong? I'm not saying "Go be a whore!" I'm saying, use your own judgment and your head and your heart to make personal calls for yourself. Everyone is different and what feels right for some people may not for others. I think that engaging in sex responsibly should not be looked down on so harshly.

[devonin]

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Ok so I'm wondering why you gave me **** for having sex at 17?

I didn't give you **** for having sex at 17, I pointed out that you said "I was going to wait, but then I didn't, and I regret not waiting, but then utterly failed to wait yet again with someone else"

[Pikachu655]

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Third: You do not have to be engaged or married to love someone. Wow that is insanely bad thought processing right there. Love should not be constricted by paper, by a ceremony, or by anything apart from how you both feel towards each other. Don't be so stupid as to try to combine love and marriage as one and the same.

Your right no ceramony needed, no paper needed marrage shouldn't be some slip of paper say something like: You married untill a divorce is done, or somthing like that but i do think that there should still be a line somwhere on saying i love you. most break ups where this line has been said are VARY nasty or somthing along those lines. there is also some one in the radio bussness who constantly mocks, argues and just is a total jerk on this and here is a link to his web site if you'd like to take a look.

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