Premaritial Sex

[stretchypanda]

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Yeah, but I think it is safe to say a lot of people on here do

While I am pretty sure you're incorrect, even if the people who do not follow Christianity were in the minority on FFR, we cannot just push those people's opinions aside as unimportant because they do not agree with the majority.

You also should be making these decisions for yourself. Don't just say, "Well, the Bible says 'no', so I'm out." You should find out WHY you should hold yourself back from something that so many people say is amazing.

I'd also like to point out that "Well, the Bible says so" is not a legitimate response for a CT thread.

[bhuntjr]

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well, I don't believe in the bible. And for the most part. Mostly everyone that does, NOT ALL, but A LOT have premarital sex. I'm kind of indifferent about it though. I actually think that because people have some much sex with different people that they pretty much doom any marriage because after a while they want something else because they can bored with it. So....Yeah maybe its a good idea. Although, I've had my share of it and I'm pretty much IN LOVE with the girl that I have now and I could never leave her for those reasons...because it's not about the sex its about the person. But most people don't seem to get that.

[csoup1414]

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I saw Chardish make a huge post about this somewhere else but I want to see other peoples' opinions on this. What are the benefits of waiting until your married before having sexual intercourse, and are there any benefits of not waiting? I mean, you should always wait until your a certain age, but does getting married really make a difference?

Discuss.

well, i always wanted to wait until i was married incase of "accidents" like pregnancy...because im still in high school and i never want to have sex until im married, just in case, because im not going to ruin my education over some guy who would probably just use me anyway. i want to make sure im with the right person
IMO there are no benefits of having sex when you're sixteen or fifteen...no benefits except your mother screaming at you, you lying to her, and having to go on the maury show or something...and the only good thing about that is that you get on tv
there is nothing good about premarital sex unless you have complete control over your life and are out of school and are completely sure that the person you are with loves you enough and you love them

[sgkoneko]

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well, i always wanted to wait until i was married incase of "accidents" like pregnancy...because im still in high school and i never want to have sex until im married, just in case, because im not going to ruin my education over some guy who would probably just use me anyway. i want to make sure im with the right person
IMO there are no benefits of having sex when you're sixteen or fifteen...no benefits except your mother screaming at you, you lying to her, and having to go on the maury show or something...and the only good thing about that is that you get on tv
there is nothing good about premarital sex unless you have complete control over your life and are out of school and are completely sure that the person you are with loves you enough and you love them

There's nothing wrong with waiting. I just don't think it's wrong if you can't either. People have urges and they may need to give in to them. Some people also have no desire to have sex whatsoever. They are probably lucky, because they are less likely to have diseases.
But abstinence doesn't make you immune to diseases. If your husband were to cheat and contract a disease, he may pass it on. Or he could have had a disease all along and didn't tell you, you get married, have sex, and now you have it.

Condoms. That's how you prevent diseases. Now, whether or not you want to have sex should be up to you and no one else(except the person you want to have sex with of course).

Why is this a debate?

[Necros140606]

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Mmmmm.... no. You say you read all of chardish's post (not a bit of which ever mentioned religion) and you still think that it's all religious? And somehow separated from reality, to boot? You clearly didn't read it all that well.



Mmmmm.... no. While remarriage (note: not divorce) is a sin, that sure isn't stopping people. On top of that, not all Christians believe that remarriage constitutes adultery. As far as I know, that's just Cathlolics (there could be more, but not many).

It's more likely due to the fact that we emphasize the importance of marriage in such a way that people won't go into it lightly. They will think about the decision long and hard and will only go through with it if the person's truly right for them. I find that situation much more likely than a vast number of people staying trapped in relationships just for the sin aspect of it.

Abstinence only further edifies that feeling of knowing what you're doing is right.



Well, too bad, because it always has been and always will be for people.



Now you're just being bigoted against Christianity. This is Critical Thinking, so you really ought to think your points through.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

by the way, there IS a reason why i said so. i live in italy you know, and the premarital sex is common thing. there's really no discussion here, i never known someone who abstained from sex till marriage. nay, we're pretty close to the death of marriage since our parliament is trying to approve some laws about the equiparance of marriage with the cohabitation.

the discussion about premarital sex belongs mostly to the USA, due to a different culture. i just tried to express my opinion about it. =)

[AOL_blows911]

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Premarital Sex is against the bible, right?So why do it then?

If I were you, I'd never post taht again in CT. Ever. I know it might be YOUR belief, which is fine, nobody here's going to slam you for it, but do NOT assume that because the Bible says so, we'll follow it. Also, do NOT assume that because there are next to no retards posting in this forum that we all believe in the Bible. For all you know, I'm Athiest. Or Muslim. Whatever. Besides, using the Bible for evidence to back up your posts is against forums rules here. Keep it to your own beliefs, don't impose on ours not ours.

Well, ranting aside, I only see 2 problems with premarital sex: Babies and STD's. Anyone can avoid getting pregnant, if you use the right precautions. Theres so many ways to keep yourself safe that your almost guarenteed to come out of it kid-free. STD's are a bit more tricky, but again, smart people get tested / ask their partner. Otherwise, I see absolutely no problem ih having sex before your married

[kylehaas]

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STD's.
And you go to hell.
And if you have kids, you completely screw their future.

[chunky_cheese]

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My grandma had my mom when she was 16 and my mom...

Okay so maybe my mom's really screwed up.

I think that if you both really know each other and are ready for this, and have really talked over the consequences, and the protection methods, and are commited to each other. Then I don't see why not.

[purebloodtexan]

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STD's.
And you go to hell.
And if you have kids, you completely screw their future.

In case you weren't being sarcastic, I'll go ahead and respond.

Just because someone has premarital sex doesn't mean that they're absolutely filthy. They may only do it on days such as Christmas, V-day or their anniversary, and use protection anyway.
Read the whole thread. We're basically trying to keep religion out of this, because it can have little if no effect on premarital sex.
This is probably why the intelligent take measures to prevent ejaculation into the female, whether by condom or by withdrawal. Even so, it's not always the male that has the orgasm. Be mindful.

Anyway, sorry if I burned anyone's eyes, I can make it up later if I did, but it seems that sex at a legal age is a better topic of discussion than premarital sex. I mean, come on, I'm probably going to tap SOMETHING while I'm in college/before I'm married. Now, I'm not saying that those who don't wait until they're legal are cowardly or are lesser beings, but I just have to ask: Why can't you wait until the proper age? I mean, you don't have to have sex now, do you? In addition to that, it makes parents fuss even more than if you were legal, whether it applies to what Kyle claimed or not. Also, like I said, it seems more rewarding when you've waited that long to finally do the deed. I don't know, maybe waiting isn't exactly a rule to me, but a challenge.

[devonin]

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Why can't you wait until the proper age?

I'm curious to hear how exactly you defend one particular age as "Proper age"

For one, any legality is usually concerned with comparative age, to stop adults from taking advantage of those too young to understand what they are agreeing to.

But what about when both people are under 18 (This number varies a lot by country and situation of course)? Should that actually be illegal? What's the reasoning behind that?

It is one thing to say "Wait until the arbitrary legal age where the government figured most people would be intelligent and mature enough to handle it" entirely out of a sense of, I don't know, civic duty, because you genuinely feel that violating any government law is wrong, but to somehow imply that the arbitrary number is any more or less "correct" than any other seems pretty foolish to me.

[purebloodtexan]

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I'm curious to hear how exactly you defend one particular age as "Proper age"

For one, any legality is usually concerned with comparative age, to stop adults from taking advantage of those too young to understand what they are agreeing to.

But what about when both people are under 18 (This number varies a lot by country and situation of course)? Should that actually be illegal? What's the reasoning behind that?

It is one thing to say "Wait until the arbitrary legal age where the government figured most people would be intelligent and mature enough to handle it" entirely out of a sense of, I don't know, civic duty, because you genuinely feel that violating any government law is wrong, but to somehow imply that the arbitrary number is any more or less "correct" than any other seems pretty foolish to me.

Proper = legal.

I'm not saying that it shouldn't be allowed, but why can't they just wait until they're 17/18*?

*17 is the legal age in Texas

[devonin]

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Proper = legal.

I'm not saying that it shouldn't be allowed, but why can't they just wait until they're 17/18*?

*17 is the legal age in Texas

Because the arbitrary age doesn't have any objective reasons why it exists and many people feel (correctly or incorrectly) that they are prepared for it in advance of that particular birthday.

Also...why is it "proper" just because the state government says it is? Have they ever given you any -reasons- why you should agree?

[Velious]

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Get laid is great

no seriously there are no real reasons to abstain from sex outside of morals

and if you have those morals you're dumb

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[TheRapingDragon]

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Who unwittingly engages in abstinence? It's a choice to develop a greater appreciation for sex with your spouse.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Skipped a couple of pages, but I have to disagree with your point there. Sex is not something you put off until you have a piece of paper telling you that it is now ok to go to the next stage of physicality with your significant other. That, in my opinion, does not make either party more appreciative for sex.

I personally believe that holding off until marriage detracts from a relationship because you place it so highly, as if it is on a pedestal that you cannot touch until you have attained the heights of marriage.

Sex is you and your partner being comfortable enough with each other, and trusting each other to be totally committed to that person for life. Enough to give your body and soul. I believe that abstaining for the sake of marriage will eventually detract from a relationship. You are stunting your relationship by forcing restrictions until a certain time. By all means if that reason is that you aren't ready then that is proper. If that reason is because "sex isn't until marriage" then I believe you have the wrong ideals.

I am all in agreement with abstaining from sex until you are both ready, but that shouldn't be pre-determined by saying "we'll be ready when we are married". Marriage is a natural progression in a relationship that is destined to be for life whereas sex is a natural progression of trust and committment towards each other that should be nurtured rather than diminished.

[Velious]

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"Sex is you and your partner being comfortable enough with each other, and trusting each other to be totally committed to that person for life."

1 out of every 500 sexual encounters maybe