Rap Music Bad Influence On Kids?

[Wlfwnd91]

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i believe it is a bad influence on kids. those who have agreed on that matter have supported their opinion nicely. great argument.

Now give us your argument

[jewpinthethird]

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@jewpin: can you name a white rapper who popularized and glorified the gangsta life so much that white kids sought to emulate it to a large degree? The reason the black artists are so targeted is because they're one of the biggest media influences on black youths. If you ask me why racism is as prevalent as it is today, it's not because people somehow think that they're inherently superior because of the color of their skin, it's because the black community has become an extension of the gangsta rappers' lives, something that is NOT desirable by any stretch of the imagination.

Of course the image portrayed by the gansta rap community isn't most the desirable, but it's not their responsibility to do what's ethically right. Record companies are businesses, they market what's popular. There's a demand for this kind of crap, therefore the company produces more crap. The "rap music" is the source of the problem, it just exasperates it. Getting rid of "undesirable" influences it's like slapping a bandage on tumor and calling it cured. Whatever happened to parents actually having a role in their children's lives?

[6 p01nt3d*st@r]

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i cant hear anything they say

i dont think kids do eather

[FalcoLombardi]

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it is a bad influenece - but what isnt these days?

i say let kids listen to it all they want, its real life anyway, and if they choose to follow a certain demographic, let them explore on their own and make their own mistakes

[Wlfwnd91]

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it is a bad influenece - but what isnt these days?

i say let kids listen to it all they want, its real life anyway, and if they choose to follow a certain demographic, let them explore on their own and make their own mistakes

I would agree if it was only their own lives they were putting in danger. But, when kids hear about these gangsters bangin the bitches and shootin everything else, then it stops being just their mistakes and ends up having casualties to their mistakes.

[MEGABILL]

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I think rap in general is repetitive, uncreative, shallow, and lacks the substance of most other music. Most themes are based on killing people, losing your girlfriend, knocking up your girlfriend, fighting with your girlfriend, doing drugs, and doing bad things to the community. It is the worst kind of music, it is hardly an art, and does not do justice to people with a creative ear. Additionally, the rap music here on FFR is absolutely horrible and should be removed on those grounds alone. If the music isn't bad enough, the steps are subpar to the rest of the songs out there. Please admins, do something about the poor selection you are providing in the rap/hip hop section.

[devonin]

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I think rap in general is repetitive, uncreative, shallow, and lacks the substance of most other music.

That on its own isn't really relevent to anything outside your own personal opinion. Plenty of people quite like it. Plenty of rap which as music as repetitive or lacks substance suddenly becomes a lot less so if you stop thinking of it as music and start thinking of it as poetry. Listen to some really skilled freestyle rapping some time and tell me if you think you could do that completely off the top of your head. I know I can't.

Most themes are based on killing people, losing your girlfriend, knocking up your girlfriend, fighting with your girlfriend, doing drugs, and doing bad things to the community.

Now this is a reasonable objection to rap music insofar as it covers your personal opinion of rap music. To those who -like- those themes in their music, it is logic explaining why rap is in fact the -best- kind of music.

It is the worst kind of music, it is hardly an art, and does not do justice to people with a creative ear.

This is a bit of a generalization. I've heard plenty of music that I'd classify as being rap/hip-hop that was incredibly creative, skilled, and as a musician myself, recognizable as being quite techinically impressive as well. Look up some music by the Pocket Dwellers some time.

Additionally, the rap music here on FFR is absolutely horrible and should be removed on those grounds alone. If the music isn't bad enough, the steps are subpar to the rest of the songs out there. Please admins, do something about the poor selection you are providing in the rap/hip hop section.

This is an entrely seperate arguement that ought to have its own thread, probably not in CT.

I mean...you raise some good points about why -you- don't like rap music, but you haven't touched at all on whether rap music is a bad influence, and on the larger scale whether media in general has a large influence on children and what ought to be done, if anything, to control that influence. Though we have no doubts now about why you personally don't like rap.

[GuidoHunter]

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I SWEAR I typed this post up last night. In fact I know I did, but I guess I didn't ever submit it...

Of course the image portrayed by the gansta rap community isn't most the desirable, but it's not their responsibility to do what's ethically right. Record companies are businesses, they market what's popular. There's a demand for this kind of crap, therefore the company produces more crap.

I never once suggested that the rappers are obligated to present a better image for the sake of the kids. I know as well as you do that they're money-driven, and I'm totally fine with it; I was just pointing out where the problem lies.

The "rap music" is the source of the problem, it just exasperates it.

I'm not trying to be grammar nazi Guido, here, but are you using the archaic definition of the word, here? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/exasperate
If not, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Getting rid of "undesirable" influences it's like slapping a bandage on tumor and calling it cured. Whatever happened to parents actually having a role in their children's lives?

I think your analogy is a bit off, here. I'd say that the parents' involvement and keeping the kids on the right course is a surgical removal of the tumor, while removing the bad influences is radiation treatment designed to prevent it from coming back (or something like that; I'm no oncologist). They both play an integral part.

You know as well as I do that no good parent can completely shelter their child from the world. If they try they're criticized for not showing their child the real world. Parents can do as much as they can, but they cannot completely prevent the effects of exposure to something that's so prevalent in our culture (especially black culture). Friends, radio, television, movies, all those things glorify rapper life, and listenting to the music or watching the videos is not something as concrete as doing heroin or smoking or something that the parents can set the kid on the right path and reasonably expect that he stays there. No, it's just listening to music, which seems harmless to a teenage kid.

But, without the rappers' glorification of the lifestyle, there's no reason to pay attention to it or like it. Having one without the other will not solve the problem.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[devonin]

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The "rap music" is the source of the problem, it just exasperates it.

I'm not trying to be grammar nazi Guido, here, but are you using the archaic definition of the word, here? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/exasperate
If not, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

The word you (And presumably they) were looking for is exacerbates, meaning to make worse, though even it is more just a modern version of the archaic definition of exasperate, perhaps because of how exasperation changed definition slightly.

[MarukuAntoni]

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wlfwind91 i forgot to add that i was lazy to add an argument. i wouldve pretty much said the same thing as the others anyway

[GuidoHunter]

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If you're not going to discuss anything or give an argument, don't post in CT.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[irishknight]

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knocking up your girlfriend.

Lawl. Yah, I do agree.. I hate MOST songs that they say/sing, half the time I'm not sure whether they're are singing or not; all I hear from them is what they're saying and the music in the background, but some of them are O.K., a little of their videos are legitimate, but most of them are suggestive/inappropriate.

Probably the reason why most people listen to the music, is that they are really not into the music, but into the "music-video".. I'm not sure about this, but when I change the channel on the TV to a music video channel, sometimes inappropriate ones come up, not meant for children under 13 or something..

(I almost never listen to rap music, I do not enjoy it... but when I'm bored on the TV I look around and find some "strange" stuff on the music videos SOMETIMES.. So anyways)...

[GuidoHunter]

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Great. Fantastic.

Now, we're having a discussion, here, so would you mind either contributing or leaving?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[hoochan]

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I dont think that its entirely the rap community's fault for the way our society has gone downhill. A main factor is the parent's choice of whether or not he/she lets their child listen to it. As a young child growing up in a traditional family, I was raised to think that rap was bad and evil. In a sense, it is. It promotes basically nothing good and everything bad. Now, in our time, too many parents are fine with letting their children run loose and do whatever their little hearts desire. They start to listen to rap music and the imitate the rappers in those videos, and that is where you start to see all the negativity behind it.

[devonin]

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A main factor is the parent's choice of whether or not he/she lets their child listen to it.

Or more to the point, whether the parents are even -aware- of what their children do or do not listen to.