Blaming what Cho did...on media?

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  • sherbtail
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2006
    • 117

    #31
    Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

    Originally posted by Pippin667
    I blame the community and his parents for what he did, you could only push one person so far before they get violent ideas. I support Cho as a human being that just got pushed over the edge, not what he did. Cho called himself a martyr because he did something to try and show the world his suffering and tip my bandana to anyone who has a message that strong. Killing people was going too far, but even though he did it that doesnt me his message shouldnt be heard.
    You can't really blame his parents, you can do the best job in the world and still be raising a psychopath, I feel sorry for them, think what they must be going through, having everybody judging them, and losing a son, it must be horrible.
    And the community? Meh, maybe he wasn't treated perfectly by everybody, maybe he was bullied, but I don't think it's any excuse for suicide, let alone a murderous rampage. Ultimately, his own actions were his own responsibility, no one elses. What was his message? If he was bullied or something, there are many different more proactive ways to go about spreading his 'message'. Do you also tip your bandana to the 9/11 suicide bombers then?

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    • Xack24
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2007
      • 44

      #32
      Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

      Originally posted by Pippin667
      Cho called himself a martyr because he did something to try and show the world his suffering and tip my bandana to anyone who has a message that strong. Killing people was going too far, but even though he did it that doesnt me his message shouldnt be heard.
      As far as what I've seen and heard of his "message" it really didn't make sense. It sounded more like violent, incoherent rambling to me.

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      • darkdragoness
        FFR Player
        • Nov 2003
        • 119

        #33
        Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

        After reading the first page, I just have to say some things.

        When I was growing up I was hardly spanked - well, by my dad at least. I knew I could get away with most everything if my mom was around, but not with my dad.

        When I was about four, I went through a terrible lying phase, and I guess my dad had just gotten fed up with it. One day in the kitchen he was sitrring something that looked like frosting, so I asked him,
        "Daddy, can I have some frosting?"
        "I don't know... it'll ruin your dinner."
        "No it won't! I'll eat everything! I promise."
        "I don't know..."
        "PLEASE?!"
        He got me extremely worked up over a spoonful of frosting, and finally gave in. He handed me the spoon, loaded with frosting, and I crammed it all into my mouth with glee - but then, instead of tasting sugary goodness, I tasted bitter nastiness. I looked up at him, questioningly, and he said "It's shortening."
        Then I started to cry, and I said to him "Why did you lie to me?!"
        he replied with,
        "Well you do it - I thought it was okay."
        Instantly my tears were replaced with thoughtfulness, and to this day, because of that incident, I've never told more than a little white lie regarding presents of some kind. If I had just been spanked, I doubt I would've come out of that phase as easily...

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        • MarukuAntoni
          mmmMMMmmm
          • Apr 2007
          • 521

          #34
          Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

          you can spread the blame around. media...its ridiculous what they show on television these days. and maybe people bullied him causing him to hate the world a bit more. and his parents? put some of the blame on them also.
          IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

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          • devonin
            Very Grave Indeed
            Event Staff
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2004
            • 10120

            #35
            Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

            Originally posted by MarukuAntoni
            you can spread the blame around. media...its ridiculous what they show on television these days. and maybe people bullied him causing him to hate the world a bit more. and his parents? put some of the blame on them also.
            As long as you put a damn hell lot of the blame squarely on him. He -chose- to react the way he did regardless of the outside stimuli trying to influence him.

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            • MarukuAntoni
              mmmMMMmmm
              • Apr 2007
              • 521

              #36
              Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

              Originally posted by devonin
              As long as you put a damn hell lot of the blame squarely on him. He -chose- to react the way he did regardless of the outside stimuli trying to influence him.
              ya of course.
              IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

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              • Sera13
                FFR Player
                • May 2005
                • 257

                #37
                Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

                I agree with the he CHOSE to do what he did. No matter how much TV we watch, video games we play, or music we listen to, we CHOSE how to behave. We decided how things impact us. The media is not to blame. The mental stabilty and his own personal battles are to blame. Some people simply are not as strong as others. Many people can take even te hardest times. Sometimes however, the week CHOSE to commit mass murders and what not. I almost think if there was anyone to blame its either him, for not seeking professional help with his personal battles, His parents and friends a for not urging him to seek prossional help, Or in the case he was seeking I still blame him. No matter what problems you are going dealing with, NOTHING can justify commiting crime such as the one he did. There is not justifiable way to blame the media for this. I am almost certian if you went and picked 10 random people off the street and sat them in a room with unlimited cable channels, Music, and Videos games for a week solid, or even longer, when released the likely hood of anyone of them going out and commiting a crime becuase of this experience is slim to none.

                Originally posted by Tonberry_Kid
                That was just totally pwnd by Sera. Nice.

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                • MarukuAntoni
                  mmmMMMmmm
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 521

                  #38
                  Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

                  i wouldnt say the chances are slim to none sera. the chances are up there but not too high. ive read some research and books and music and video games does have an impact on the choices and actions people make. i agree with what you say however that what he did was his CHOICE. he is responsible for his actions and his mental thinking. outside stimuli has somewhat of an impact on mental thinking and choices.
                  IF I CAN CLIMB A TREE, I CAN CLIMB MT EVEREST. IF I CAN DRIVE A CAR, I CAN PILOT A SPACE SHUTTLE. IF I CAN PEE, I CAN BE THE PRESIDENT. IF I CAN POO, I CAN RULE THE WORLD!

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                  • FyRe-AnT
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 15

                    #39
                    Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

                    I think what he did was because he was just pushed to the edge by society, its just strange for someone to do that without a reason according to the students who said there wasnt a reason which I think is bull****.

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                    • ToshX
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 5111

                      #40
                      Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

                      There is always a reason for this kind of thing. It's not like some psycho just wakes up and says "I wanna go kill 32 people because some kid told me I was ugly". There is always a much deeper reason for this. Maybe he just didn't want to say it? Maybe he just felt very strongly about what he did say.

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                      • lord_carbo
                        FFR Player
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 6222

                        #41
                        Re: Blaming what Cho did...on media?

                        Blaming things on the media?

                        Might as well not even click on that Youtube link--I might turn into a serial killer!

                        Originally posted by Chrissi
                        Blah blah anti-Christian stuff.
                        The problem in Christians such as that isn't that they believe God says this and God says that, but that they think that by merely "believing" in God, they're exempt from hell, so they disregard the Bible completely. One thing I ask very un-Christian-like Christians is, "if God is truly the way and is truly the light, then isn't his word the true path to perfection and you should obey it at least a little more?" This question always goes to people who come to church only on holidays and are generally not goodhearted.
                        Last edited by lord_carbo; 04-26-2007, 09:01 PM.
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