Is America ready?

[purebloodtexan]

Re: Is America ready?

Yes most of the earth could be submerged in water if all the ice caps and such melted. That chance that day will ever come is very slim.

Well, not very slim, but it wouldn't come in quite a while.

By the way, this might be the fact that I've been posting on forums for quite a while, but it irritates me when people multi-post (The gBin is an exception). Please do your best to avoid that.

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I believe America has to much raceism and sexism in america to give any type of minority a high place in office (and i mean higher then sec. of state)

[Lamoc]

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HAHA total change of topic. But the new president should definately have the "all sight effect". That means you should be able to see all the kinds of views and express everything equaling. Meaning the new president should try to abolish any kind of racism or homophobia or anything of the such.

[GuidoHunter]

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I believe America has to much raceism and sexism in america to give any type of minority a high place in office (and i mean higher then sec. of state)

You know, there's not many positions higher than Senator or Secretary of State (not to mention the fact that America doesn't een choose the President's cabinet).

But even then, I completely disagree. Save for a few select regions (which, when compared to the rest of the nation amount to very little), I don't believe there exists enough racism to completely prevent minorities from holding office.

Why do you think otherwise?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[purebloodtexan]

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You know, there's not many positions higher than Senator or Secretary of State (not to mention the fact that America doesn't een choose the President's cabinet).

But even then, I completely disagree. Save for a few select regions (which, when compared to the rest of the nation amount to very little), I don't believe there exists enough racism to completely prevent minorities from holding office.

Why do you think otherwise?

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Although I disagree with him, I can see why he would say that. Before we even knew what racism was, we were often curious as to why the colors of our skin was different. When we did learn what racism was, we were either pressured to be racist, not to be racist, trying to figure out when we cross the line, or doing our best to stay off the topic.

Unfortunately, some chose the greater of evils.

[Reach]

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I never said it weren't proven. I know climate change has been proven. What I'm saying is that it's not out of control, nothing we need to worry much about. And since the earth does go through warming/cooling cycles, then we know that the earth is currently in a warming cycle. And in 30+ years or so the earth will start it cooling cycle.

Not out of control? Where are you getting this information? As far as from what I've read, it's already out of control and it probably isn't possible to stop it now.

The earth does go through heating and cooling cycles, but you're view is unrealistic. Our CO2 level contentration in the atmosphere is twice as high today as it has even been over the last million years. Projections say if the trend continues the levels will be up to 5 times higher by 2100.

The world is growing quickly, china and india going through industrial booms. The effects of global warming are not going to improve. Your so called cooling trend is going to come, but its not going to be pleasant. If anything the excess heat is going to trigger a pseudo iceage that will devastate the economy.

People feel immune to these sort of issues, as if they don't apply to them specifically or something...kind of like a teenager that just gets their liscence thinks they can speed and not get in an accident. This is a real issue. Changing the chemical composition of the planet is going to have consequences.

[sherbtail]

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Not out of control? Where are you getting this information?

Well from what I've read the American government goes to great lengths to cover up or get rid of research giving evidence for climate change.

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/interference/atmosphere-of-pressure.html

[Lamoc]

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African american for the win!

[das1ngerplayer]

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Not out of control? Where are you getting this information? As far as from what I've read, it's already out of control and it probably isn't possible to stop it now.

The earth does go through heating and cooling cycles, but you're view is unrealistic. Our CO2 level contentration in the atmosphere is twice as high today as it has even been over the last million years. Projections say if the trend continues the levels will be up to 5 times higher by 2100.

The world is growing quickly, china and india going through industrial booms. The effects of global warming are not going to improve. Your so called cooling trend is going to come, but its not going to be pleasant. If anything the excess heat is going to trigger a pseudo iceage that will devastate the economy.

People feel immune to these sort of issues, as if they don't apply to them specifically or something...kind of like a teenager that just gets their liscence thinks they can speed and not get in an accident. This is a real issue. Changing the chemical composition of the planet is going to have consequences.

With that attitude who knows, maybe your iceage will come. You are views are unrealistic, not mine.

When you say 'projections' you're not using the definition of that word correctly (You might know what it means but I'll continue my point...). What scientists measure in CO2 levels in our atmosphere is only a very small portion of time. The whole 'global warming problem caused by CO2' idea is based on measurements from only a few years time (Maybe a decade but still not long). Much of science doesn't take into consideration that 1-technology is advanceing and there will be ways to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere and 2-it's still not 100% proven that CO2 is the main cause of the current warming cycle.

As for you idea of an iceage. The earth will begin to coll in future decades but far from any iceage. You need to stop over reacting, no iceage is going to come from CO2 as of now. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying the way things are going now it's improbable.

[purebloodtexan]

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With that attitude who knows, maybe your iceage will come. You are views are unrealistic, not mine.

When you say 'projections' your not getting the deffinition of that world right You might know what it means but I'll continue my point...). What scientists measure in CO2 levels in our atmosphere is only a very small portion of time. The whole 'global warming problem caused by CO2' idea is based on measurements from only a few years time (Maybe a decade but still not long). Much of science doesn't take into consideration that 1-technology is advanceing and there will be ways to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere and 2-it's still not 100% proven that CO2 is the main cause of the current warming cycle.

As for you idea of an iceage. The earth will begin to coll in future decades but far from any iceage. You need to stop over reacting, no iceage is going to come from CO2 as of now. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying the way things are going now it's improbable.

Even if we do supposedly reduce the carbon in the atmosphere, there's still too much damage to the atmosphere and the ice caps. The great flood is coming, whether we like it or not.

[Reach]

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With that attitude who knows, maybe your iceage will come. You are views are unrealistic, not mine.

When you say 'projections' your not getting the deffinition of that world right You might know what it means but I'll continue my point...). What scientists measure in CO2 levels in our atmosphere is only a very small portion of time. The whole 'global warming problem caused by CO2' idea is based on measurements from only a few years time (Maybe a decade but still not long). Much of science doesn't take into consideration that 1-technology is advanceing and there will be ways to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere and 2-it's still not 100% proven that CO2 is the main cause of the current warming cycle.

As for you idea of an iceage. The earth will begin to coll in future decades but far from any iceage. You need to stop over reacting, no iceage is going to come from CO2 as of now. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying the way things are going now it's improbable.

Ok, I used projections properly, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

A very small portion of time? No, you are wrong here.

We can extract CO2 data that shows us the levels from the present day to nearly a million years ago. Here's a graph I found.




And of course CO2 isn't the only cause for global warming. That doesn't mean that the scientific concensus across the board isn't that global warming we are seeing is manmade, though.

[GuidoHunter]

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there's still too much damage to the atmosphere and the ice caps.

...no there's not. The hole in the ozone layer has stagnated if not begun to shrink, and if there were significant damage to the ice caps, everyone'd know.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Lamoc]

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Theres already been a decrease in the ice caps. I will look for the article but a large part of one of the ice caps fell off because of high water tempatures. Then the other ice cap was melting and some scientists had to leave the cap because of the unstable features. I'll look for the article.

[purebloodtexan]

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And just an FYI, I didn't just get this whole thing off the picture of the polar bears trapped on the piece of drifting ice, and I certainly hope that noone else does.

[purebloodtexan]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

^I think we should pay attention to this to most in the subject of glacier damage.

Edit: There's a huge increase in South America as well. This might be due to the annihilation of the Amazon.