Ingame Song Information

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Switchback - 1.5/6, 13-14
Incognito - 4/6, 50-51

for me.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I suggest Hardcore of the North be put higher in the list, before Go Go Power Rangers. 24ths and tricky increasing speed make it hard.

[vengefullangel]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

and passing is NOT part of the discussion for difficulty. ever. no song is difficult to pass on FFR due to its nature. discussion of difficulty is always about FCing and PAing.

OK.
How's this?

Switchback is no harder to PA/FC than Stay With Me V1.

Either version works for me, and in the context of the post means practically the same thing. And, of course, now you've confused me because I've always seen this on the first page:

This list is based on the difficulty for passing (without mashing)....

The list does go on, but passing without mashing is the first thing on the list.

Maybe in the case of players who can only just pass 1.5 songs, and are trying to pass 2.0 songs does passing without mashing apply? Is it possible that they would have more trouble passing Dr. Willy Theme V1 than V2? And a lot more trouble trying to pass See You Dance than Snowflakes?

Maybe at your level things seem a lot easier to understand, and passing is irrelevant because of mashing; but there is a lot of subtlety behind this ranking list -- there is no complete right answer --, and passing a song is a factor albeit one that can't be arbitrarily be measured when mashing becomes an option.

Don't worry, I won't post in this thread anymore. I can't stand being so blatantly disrespected. If you want more opinions from lesser players, don't yell at the first one that walks through the door.

[hi19hi19]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

frozen is way out of place i believe. I mean destiny is ranked more difficult. yeah I have over 40 goods on frozen and i have 3 goods on destiny. Something is messed up here.

EDIT: oh nvm, i guess they're just next to each other for no apparent reason in the game. My bad.

Ya the first few files of Dance2 are way out of order.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Frozen is first in Dance2 just for the time being.... once I get around to it, it'll be moved to its proper place. Shash put it there so it'd be easy for people to find, access, and play.

also Vengeful... my apologies for being a dick.

[will-o-wisp0_me]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

hardcore of the north, ya, the token song, dosnt need to be very difficult, it's more of a difficult. plain difficult...

[Doug31]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

hardcore of the north, ya, the token song, dosnt need to be very difficult, it's more of a difficult. plain difficult...

And what's your support for this? It seems like at least very difficult to me.

Also, are you really the age it says you are?

[ledwix]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Also, are you really the age it says you are?

how about you doug? are you the age it says you are? XD

anyways, i would have to say that the triplets/24ths if you will in HotN make it at least very difficult. and there are tempo changes where you still have to do the 16ths and then 24ths. its a really hard AAA.

[Dronak]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

and passing is NOT part of the discussion for difficulty. ever. no song is difficult to pass on FFR due to its nature. discussion of difficulty is always about FCing and PAing.

Well, as vengefullangel noted already, the initial post does say, "This list is based on the difficulty for passing (without mashing), full combo, good pefect attack." This indicates that passing is a factor in the difficulty rating, as long as you're not mashing to pass the song. If that's not really true, perhaps the initial post should be edited to remove this part or clarify it further. Or maybe a reordering of the points would help, to put the most important factors first in the list.

I do understand your point though. I've passed some really hard songs by mashing the heck out of them, and I'd hardly consider those worth very much. Switchback is slow with easy rhythms, and I dare say that no one should have to mash it, so to some extent I think vengefullangel is OK to talk about passing that particular song. But in general, I think you're right -- PC, FC, and PA, are much more important factors than simply reaching the end of the song.

FWIW, I think 13-14 for Switchback is OK with me. That's an area where I have mostly SDGs with 1 BF and 1 PC for best scores. At 15, I only have SDG bests. I have BFed Dr. Willy Theme v2 at 18 and Snowflakes at 20, but only 1 SDG in the 2 category at 19, but those seem to be unique, fortunate plays -- I can't remember repeating them. So from what I can do, Switchback seems to fit better in the high 1.5s than the low 2s, and maybe not at 15 (the highest in 1.5).

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Ingame rating of Switchback was already changed to 3.

Added new songs and character's face thing.

[Doug31]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Well, as vengefullangel noted already, the initial post does say, "This list is based on the difficulty for passing (without mashing), full combo, good pefect attack...

Not only that, but also, in Chardish's quote, it says that the Master songs are hard to clear, so noobs will mash and pass songs like fotbb, hellbeat, and silence, and conclude that they shouldn't be in master. Right now, I don't consider any songs to have a hard enough pass difficulty for it to be any significant factor in what difficulty rating they get.

[Shashakiro]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

just thought it over, min goods on Chrono for AAA is 9...you can't get both a perf and 314 combo from that one part.

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

True, you have to hit the arrows after the first glitched arrow earlier before the Miss-judgement of the glitched arrow to get 314 (or 313, maybe).

[Shashakiro]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Hmm, I'm not sure, actually...if it's a 3-frame jack, min goods is 9, if it's a 4-framer, it's still 8.

Someone check? It's the jack caused by the roll with the two glitched arrows that first breaks your combo near the end.

[igotrhythm]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

What song was Tass talking about when he said he needed input from less skilled players? I'd be happy to help you guys investigate this.