Ingame Song Information

[Doug31]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Hey, since Troglodytic Epica has a length of 4:31, it qualifies to be 3rd under longest length.

Ya, pretty soon it should look like this:

Length (TOP 5 each)
(Longest)
1. Pants (5:58)
2. MAX Forever (5:42)
3. Troglodytic Epica (4:31)
4. Song For The Nihonjins (4:27)
5. Air (4:23)

[jimerax]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Done.. forgot to update that.

[Sweet_Feet]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

OK, my opinion for new Token / Tass' B-day songs.

Takecore of Yourself - 5/6, 69
Tsugaru 180 New Version - 4/6, 48
That is Fair - 4/6, 51
Aztec Templing (Techno-Titlan mix) - 5/6, 71
Troglodytic Epica - 4/6, 49
{Blaze} - 4.5/6, 64

Troglogytic is harder than RiP for me, BPM is a bit slower though.
so I think it's low 4.

i was gonna talk about takecore of yourself, i don't think it should be ranked "very" challenging, just maybe a 4.5/6

[Shashakiro]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

insanely weird rhythms and minor jack syndrome make takecore a definite 5.

[hi19hi19]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Tsugaru seems a bit overrated. It's not that hard, is it?

I wanted it to be like a Konami 8 or 9 foot pad file...
I say bump it down to a 47 or 46.

[vengefullangel]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I'm going to have to recomend that Switchback be placed in Very Easy near Stay With Me, but since Switchback has a higher BMP it should be placed at a slightly higher difficulty. I AAA'd it on my 6th try, and if it is put in easy then it's going to be in the same category as snowflakes, which I can't AAA, and See You dance, which I still haven't managed to FC (and have given up on because of how much I hate it).

Switchback's patterns are simple, and have basically the same skill requirements as Stay With Me.

Hi Hi19.

[Shashakiro]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

hi: trills are actually easier on pad than on keyboard. That would probably explain it.

And the 24ths make it instantly too hard for a DDR 9 anyway.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

vengeful: the debate has been between a high 3 and a low 4. wouldn't mind more input from not as good players... as it is too hard for us skilled guys to judge appropriately, as we can all AAA it in 1 try without trouble.

[Dronak]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Tasselfoot, are you talking about having Switchback at high 3 or low 4 (out of 6)? I think I'm more in agreement with vengefullangel on this one. I'm not an expert player, so here's some background and my thoughts.

My average rank is about 3100 or so, I have 11 PCs (2 at 0.5, 7 at 1, 2 at 1.5), 3 black flags (1 at 1.5, 2 at 2), and have FC'ed almost all of the songs up through near the high 3s. Songs at 3.5 and 4 are usually what I use to push myself a bit, but things are typically too hard at 4.5 and up (I mash a lot in them).

I BF'ed Switchback on the 1st attempt, and think my other few tries so far were SDGs. With that and my PC/BF stats, I would place Switchback in the area of high 1.5 to mid/high 2, I guess. From my best scores, my hardest PC is on RainDrops (1.5) and my hardest BF is on Snowflakes (2). I suppose it could be a bit easier than RainDrops or a bit harder than Snowflakes since I don't always get things in order, as you may have guessed from the background stats above.

I'm not sure exactly where the song should go. The tempo isn't that fast, and most of the rhythms are pretty simple quarter and eighth notes. Only a couple of 16ths show up, in what I think is a half note triplet pattern. I think those are the hardest parts of the song, mainly because they break the even quarter/eighth rhythm used everywhere else in the song. They're short and not too hard to catch though, so I might go with a bit easier rather than a bit harder, probably high 1.5 where I have other SDG best scores (I've only got one SDG best at 2).

I know that's a lot, but that's how I usually post. I hope it's of some use to all of you in determining the level for Switchback.

[Doug31]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

vengeful: the debate has been between a high 3 and a low 4. wouldn't mind more input from not as good players... as it is too hard for us skilled guys to judge appropriately, as we can all AAA it in 1 try without trouble.

Then I'm a terrible player, since I've yet to AAA it, even after several tries. It's too slow for me to do well on. I can't stand any slow, long, easy songs.

[sonic_star67]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Then I'm a terrible player, since I've yet to AAA it, even after several tries. It's too slow for me to do well on. I can't stand any slow, long, easy songs.

i feel your pain

[vengefullangel]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Switchback is no harder to pass than Stay With Me V1. All you need for Switchback is the skill from Stay With Me V1 and a bit of patience. Patience is the reason why I can't AAA Too Tight. I really think that Switchback is no higher than 2. And it's likely 1.5. Somewhere after Stay With Me, though, because Switchback has a higher BMP and length.

[Tasselfoot]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

it's currently listed as a 2... debate is whether it should be a high 1.5 or stay as a low 2.

and passing is NOT part of the discussion for difficulty. ever. no song is difficult to pass on FFR due to its nature. discussion of difficulty is always about FCing and PAing.

[dawg4321]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

frozen is way out of place i believe. I mean destiny is ranked more difficult. yeah I have over 40 goods on frozen and i have 3 goods on destiny. Something is messed up here.

EDIT: oh nvm, i guess they're just next to each other for no apparent reason in the game. My bad.

[Sweet_Feet]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

EDIT: oh nvm, i guess they're just next to each other for no apparent reason in the game. My bad.

when they say the songs are listed page by page easiest to hardest this doesn't make sense its just there

switchback is easier than stay with me (in my opinion) beacause the BG isen't confusing, colored arrows help with the beat and so on