If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

[Reach]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

There's only so many ways to leave the church. What do you expect? "And one day I decided to herd sheep into the chapel while I lit it on fire, to then invented my own religion"...? And just because we all classify as atheist does not necessarily mean we believe in the same things entirely, it just means we share a common acknowledgement that there are no entities that govern this world.

It seems like stereotyping to say "Oh you atheists have no unique thoughts!" Oh really? Just like, you religious people are all fanatical lunatics like the people on borat.

I mean comeon now.

[iggymatrixcounter]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

I will throw another idea out there relating to Adam and Eve.

If they were the first humans and they seeded humanity, then who did their kids have kids with? Incest? Isn't incest a sin in the Christian religion?

You almost logically answered you own question.

Incest? yes.

Incest breaking a Christian law? yes

But Adam and Eve weren't under a christian law system, (nor the Mosiac law for the matter) so incest wasn't something that was bad at that time.

[Grandiagod]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

There's only so many ways to leave the church. What do you expect? "And one day I decided to herd sheep into the chapel while I lit it on fire, to then invented my own religion"...? And just because we all classify as atheist does not necessarily mean we believe in the same things entirely, it just means we share a common acknowledgement that there are no entities that govern this world.

It seems like stereotyping to say "Oh you atheists have no unique thoughts!" Oh really? Just like, you religious people are all fanatical lunatics like the people on borat.

I mean comeon now.

No Reach, us Athiests are all the same. Godless fools who all think the same. We have no unique ideas, all we do is sit down and think about God not existing.

However, sometimes we burn children and sacrifice cats to Satan, even though we don't belive he exists. We have no ethics at all, because in order to have ethics we would have to believe in a diety. All we do is sit and follow the herd of other godless athiests.

Duh.

[Patashu]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

I will throw another idea out there relating to Adam and Eve.

If they were the first humans and they seeded humanity, then who did their kids have kids with? Incest? Isn't incest a sin in the Christian religion?

Had God or anyone said insest was a sin yet?

Anup~

And they weren't the first humans, since Cain found a wife in the land of Nod.

[psychlone]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

from the lore that I've heard (I can't say I have primary source confirmation of this, it's just my understanding of the story) Cain found Lillith, Adam's first wife, who was also made of dirt - not his rib - and therefore felt she deserved to be equal to Adam, whereas Eve came from Adam and is subjugated to him. Because Lillith wanted to be equal to Adam she was deemed too disloyal and was banished from Eden.

Adam and Eve spawned humans, whereas Cain and Lillith spawned demons.

Or... for the case of Neon Genesis Evangelion, Adam and Eve (Eva) were the angels, and Lillith is the mother of all mankind.

[Laharl]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

I thought you guys already knew it about me that I feel that the vast majority of people in general are pretty unoriginal, myself included.

Relax. It wasn't a dig.

[Izzi]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

You got us there.

It's impossible for two dozen people to think the same thing. Gosh.

Just like it's impossible for six billion people to believe in gravity. WE'RE ALL THINKING THE SAME THING! CONSPIRACY!

One is provable the other isnt.

[psychlone]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

grandia, chill... reach wasn't calling atheists unoriginal. He was being sarcastic.

Also, as for everybody's thoughts being mostly the same... it's better than some pseudo-atheists who only call themselves that because they're angry at god. They can't understand how bad things can happen to good people or another one of those mysteries and blame it on god, and for some reason, feel they'll get even by not believing in god... but they'll still blame him for it.

I don't think it's a bad thing that the methods were all similar, I think that's human nature. Actually, I think it's human nature for all religions in general, the true believers/converts are the ones who don't have a grudge, or any indoctrination. It just feels right, it meshes with your personal worldview and philosophy... all the other reasons and circumstances are icing. I think it's ultimately just because it feels right, and you take it on faith.

As a side note, now that I'm thinking about it, speaking of taking things on faith... I find it very interesting how religions that require a faith in a god or divine spirit need to somehow rationalize the creation of the earth and mankind with a mythos. Anybody else find that odd?

[Ghostwriter]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

Look at the crusades.............Enough said......

[Laharl]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

One is provable the other isnt.

What is provable now?

You're so vague, I can only assume you mean the lack of proof of God, and therefore it's "provable" he doesn't exist.

So where's your proof?

@ Ghostwriter: What about them? I'm sure if you lived in that time period, you'd have thought nothing of it. There's a lot of things we can't account for in history books about that era. Besides, it is pretty much common conception that the Crusades were political agenda pushed by religious zeal. There was a unifying factor in Europe at the time, that being Catholicism. If you're in charge, and you want to get something done, you have to rely on whatever that unifying factor is. Christianity was not the CAUSE of those wars but merely a casualty of them.

[-Izzy-]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

No i meant the gravity is provable. Stop assuming things please.

[Shashakiro]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

No i meant the gravity is provable. Stop assuming things please.

Actually, nothing is "provable" in science. You can show something to be true beyond all reasonable doubt (such as gravity), but you can't PROVE it true in ALL cases, because it's impossible to find and test ALL cases. Gravity has not been and will never be "proven" to be true--but the evidence supporting it is so overwhelming that you'd have to be nuts not to believe in it.

What is true is that the evidence supporting the existence of a divine being or power is relatively nonexistent when compared to the evidence supporting gravity...wish you would've said that instead.

[-Izzy-]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

Wishing never solved anything.

[shazam_2011]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

Born Agnostic, claimed the Catholic religion, denounced and became Agnostic, and then reclaimed Catholicism and claimed Atheism once I realized that the Bible was nothing more than an entertaining read blown wayyyy out of proportion.

[Grandiagod]

Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?

Born Agnostic, claimed the Catholic religion, denounced and became Agnostic, and then reclaimed Catholicism and claimed Atheism once I realized that the Bible was nothing more than an entertaining read blown wayyyy out of proportion.

You don't make up your mind easily do you?