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  • hi19hi19
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2005
    • 12194

    #1

    Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

    I'm checking to see what difficult songs I still need to FC, so I go and sort my levelranks by most misses. Here's a picture showing one section of what I get:


    Well most of that makes sense, but um... there's a few in there that are not like the others! lmao
    The thing is, I distinctly remember FCing some of those easier songs that levelranks is saying I have misses on, however some of them are also definitely being reported correctly.

    So I decided to check the Velocity engine and see if, using the song select, these songs will show as being FC'd or not.
    I'm certain that I have already FC'd Bomb the Base, and sure enough, the Velocity engine agrees with me:



    I'm also sure I have NOT FC'd Switchback [Light], and this is being reported accurately by levelranks and the Velocity engine:



    The weirdness holds true for the rest of the songs. I'm sure that, in addition to Bomb the Base, I have FC'd Tetris Remix, Troglodytic Epica, and Norgers. For all four of these, levelranks does not show my FC but Velocity's engine does.

    In addition to Switchback [Light], levelrank and Velo's engine agree that I have not FC'd Song For The Nihonjins either. I'm certain these two results are correct, as I remember both of these songs and where I derped misses due to being bored out of my mind.

    Finally I checked the Beta Level Reader and it's agreeing with levelranks in all of the cases.



    The implications of this are a little unsettling. Is it a bug in Velo's sort mechanism or is it an error with score recording/levelranks? Is this a known bug and I'm just overreacting? XD


  • remedy1502
    remederpin
    • Feb 2007
    • 4884

    #2
    Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

    If I'm not mistaken, it derps up the levelranks and stuff after you play it. For example, I have an FC on EHHS. I play EHHS half way through, then boo out. Velo engine will now recognize that EHHS is NOT FC'd, and if you sort by rank, it will show the rank as the rank of your most recent run.

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    • hi19hi19
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      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #3
      Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

      Originally posted by remedy1502
      If I'm not mistaken, it derps up the levelranks and stuff after you play it. For example, I have an FC on EHHS. I play EHHS half way through, then boo out. Velo engine will now recognize that EHHS is NOT FC'd, and if you sort by rank, it will show the rank as the rank of your most recent run.
      Thing is, levelranks is the one showing it not FC'd but velo's engine IS. So I have the reverse of what you're saying
      Last edited by hi19hi19; 10-16-2011, 03:47 AM.


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      • justin_ator
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        • Mar 2007
        • 7648

        #4
        Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

        I know what you're talking about, I've noticed this and been annoyed over my Marissa Stole the Precious Thing FC not showing up for quite some time, in the (I think?) Beta Level Reader, when I have a screenshot of my FC of it and it supposedly recorded. I dunno, some of the sorting and ranks are just so derpy, hopefully we can get some answers on this.

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        • hi19hi19
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          FFR Simfile Author
          • Oct 2005
          • 12194

          #5
          Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

          I just played CAULI FLOWER, and afterwards I checked my levelranks and it did not record, despite a ranking showing up properly after I had played it. Additionally the Velocity engine also says I didn't play it, despite the fact I played it about 3 minutes ago ON the Velocity engine.

          wtf man. I'm gonna have to stop using the Velo engine standalone if I can't trust it to record my scores >_>
          Hoping this is an issue with velo's engine and not the whole system...


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          • justin_ator
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            • Mar 2007
            • 7648

            #6
            Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

            Iirc, the Velo engine has been having issues recording all scores on Token songs. But I don't use the Velo engine, which is why I don't know why I was having issues in the first place as well.

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            • Velocity
              Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Administrator
              • Jul 2007
              • 1817

              #7
              Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

              Level ranks determines FC like this:
              Code:
              ($result['perfect'] + $result['good'] + $result['almost']) == $arrows['level'] && $result['miss'] == 0 && $arrows['level'] != 0
              While my engine just does a shorter version of the same code:
              Code:
              ($result['perfect'] + $result['good'] + $result['almost']) == $arrows['level']
              Though, the level rank code makes more sense to go by as it checks that you do in fact have 0 misses.

              Another thing, both engines use the same files, a problem with one will affect the other.

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              • hi19hi19
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                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2005
                • 12194

                #8
                Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                Well that's pretty silly... hopefully the kind of thing that's easy to change? XD


                And what's up with the scores not recording? Is it for token songs only?


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                • Velocity
                  Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Administrator
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1817

                  #9
                  Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                  No idea about the token scores, how long have they been broken?

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                  • psychoangel691
                    Retired Staff
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 10438

                    #10
                    Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                    Token scores haven't been recording if you use the in game log in from the standalone. If you're logged in on IE on the standalone they record. This has been mentioned a couple times. Same goes for vet songs, if you use in game log in you don't see them but logged in on IE it's fine.
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                    • hi19hi19
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                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12194

                      #11
                      Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                      Originally posted by psychoangel691
                      Token scores haven't been recording if you use the in game log in from the standalone. If you're logged in on IE on the standalone they record. This has been mentioned a couple times. Same goes for vet songs, if you use in game log in you don't see them but logged in on IE it's fine.
                      Odd that public songs record fine without being logged in on IE but vet/token doesn't.

                      Oh well, I hadn't heard this before so thanks for mentioning it. Should be an easy fix, I'll let you know if it works for me, but it sounds like it should.


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                      • Velocity
                        Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010.
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Administrator
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1817

                        #12
                        Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                        Can you go play that level again for me, I need to check something.

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                        • psychoangel691
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                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 10438

                          #13
                          Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                          Yea I have no idea why it's like that. I have a guess, but I'll leave it to the coders <3
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                          Originally posted by DaBackpack
                          also a fucking helicopter is the absolute last place I'd go to find out how big my dick is
                          Originally posted by Shadow_God_10
                          Dawg you don't even know. It's so fuckin' small I can use a pen cap to jack off

                          Originally posted by hi19hi19
                          yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl

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                          • hi19hi19
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                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 12194

                            #14
                            Re: Level Ranks/Velo Engine song sorting weirdness

                            I was not logged on in IE when I played this (verified by checking using the Legacy standalone)


                            EDIT- seems to be solved now :P
                            Last edited by hi19hi19; 10-17-2011, 12:40 AM.


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