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  • Shikari
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2010
    • 2055

    #1

    A new beginning for our SM community.

    Well, since I got a few good reviews for this idea, I'm making a thread so people can give opinions better:

    Originally posted by Shikari
    I was thinking about a whole new Stepmania community, like ODI is/was back in the days. I know we have both KBO and FFR, but a full community, centered only on Stepmania, from playing to stepping, would be cool to gather new and old people. A place where we could discuss everything about this game we play, and come up with "solutions" to keep Stepmania alive and make it more popular, bringing even more people. I don't care if we are going to have pad files, keyboard files, anime files, just a place for Stepmania, with subforums for each file "category".
    Originally posted by Shikari
    Originally posted by Staiain
    I agree, back in the days when ODI was active was the best period for me as a sm player
    Sadly, I wasn't a ODI active, but I do know how much that site was active and a good place to hang out. I was thinking about this new forum today, and we have material for that: The old project of Stepmania classes, posted here on FFR, where prolific step authors were giving real lessons on how to use some stuff, like X-mod (JenovaSephiroth was the "teacher") and Color Theory (moches and GD), and your SM Wiki and World Records database. Sadly, the Stepmania classes project was forgotten during the FFR's big crash.

    I don't know, maybe a fresh start for Stepmania community is what we're missing, and who knows how big our community can grow with a new place to focus and hang out.
    Stian Kristensen 8:07 pm
    it's a good idea, we get a domain, a webhost and i'd buy a vbulletin lisence and then we'll set up a forum or something, but we need to be sure that more than us (me, you hawke) is into the idea, and would help out

    We have the idea, we have Stian willing to buy us a vBulletin license, we have a few people interested in this new forum: Me, Staiain, Hawke and Razor.

    Now, we need your opinion as a Stepmania player/stepartist: Is this possible? Would you give any kind of help?

    Thoughts, opinions, suggestions, everything is welcome.


    Edit, and I really appreciate if you readed it:

    Okay, guys, after these 2 days of thread, here's what we have in terms of ideas and possible features:


    - New and unificated forums

    Since the SM-SSC dev team offered full support to this idea, they gave access to the stepmania.com website, so we can redesign everything to be more user-friendly, with new forums and subforums for all Stepmania "categories": Pad, KB, Solo and Anime. If you have any contact with the "heads" of each of these communities, reason with them so we can unity Stepmania communities once and for all.


    - Scores Database, new Difficulty Rating system and Tier Points system for KB

    Yes, Tier Points, one of the most attractive features for many players. If you check Kongregate, lots of people go there for badges, achievements. Me, Halogen, Staiain and Rubix come up with some ideas for this diff/TP system. Here's the project:

    Instead of having multiple packs with multiple difficulty systems (Xoon with the 1-10 system; Older pack with a somewhat random method of rating), we want to remake all these difficulties to match a 1-100 system, 1 being the easiest easiest and 100 being the hardest, mind-blowing, mortal shit ever conceived by humanity. For difficulty 100, we have Chik habit Beginner as a parameter.

    Here, we need your help, player: We need you to play whole packs and give these rates to the files. Then, we gather all the information and discuss a fair system to please both newcomers, who can't even C/B files like Shind Bad and Air, and the best players around, like Alex, Staiain, and Dossar. So far, we have the following players helping:

    AlexDest (LCP1, LCP2, FFRCP3, Xoon 3, KBC3)
    samurai7694
    Xx{Midnight}xX (SMBPack, KBC2, Xoon 1, FFRCP1, HSMP1)
    TC_Halogen
    Staiain
    sakura080789 (VGMP1, VGMP2, VGMP3, DCP, FFRP2)
    Shikari
    Bluearrowll
    Ziergdsx18 (Xoon 4 Red, Xoon 4 Blue, Xoon Drama 1, HSMP7, Midare 4 )
    AsphyxZero (SMG1, SMG2, RF, CKM1, CKM2)

    If you want to volunteer on this task, and it's important that you do, since the list of packs used in this new system is HUGE, talk to me via Comment Wall, PM or AIM.

    Once we finish this new difficulty method, we will work on tasks for the Tier Points, and record these achievements, and players scores, on a new database, similar to what FFR has, having even a rank for these TPs. The SSC dev team said they want to try this idea, so we can expect great things from them.


    - Stepfile Making Classes and Encouraging

    Biased idea? I don't think so. I know you might think "But, people shouldn't tell people what to do", but this is different. Around 2009 or so, before the big FFR crash, if I recall correctly, there was a project going on here in FFR, where prolific stepartists would give "classes" about various methods and technics of file making, suc as Color Theory and X-modding. Well, I want to revive this project. JenovaSephiroth, who was the Xmod teacher in this project, said he'd help with this, and since Oni-Paranoia said he wanted a subforum for Course Modding, we could create a subforum for this "Stepmania University". Here, we need help from stepartists that want to share their technique and ideas to new authors. If you want to help, lemme know by the same ways mentioned before. The list so far is:

    - JenovaSephiroth
    - Oni-Paranoia
    - who_cares973

    About the encouraging part, in this subforum for stepartists, we could come up with ideas for new packs, such as leonid's Single Song Pack, and encourage new and old authors to produce files, keeping the community in movement.


    Later, I'll add whatever more we come up with, and add names to helping lists. Thank you all, supporters and helpers, for trying to make this idea happen.
    Last edited by Shikari; 04-30-2011, 03:46 PM.

    Originally posted by gold stinger
    Shikari for resident profile artist
  • Bluearrowll
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2007
    • 7376

    #2
    Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

    I'd be into something like this absolutely.
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    Bluearrowll = The Canadian player who can not detect awkward patterns. If it's awkward for most people, it's normal for Terry. If the file is difficult but super straight forward, he has issues. If he's AAAing a FGO but then heard that his favorite Hockey team was losing by a point, Hockey > FFR
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    • Staiain
      Can't handle my ÆØÅ
      • Aug 2009
      • 4545

      #3
      Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

      A stepmania exclusive community made from scratch might be what revives the old community that everyone liked and enjoyed






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      • leonid
        I am leonid
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Oct 2008
        • 8080

        #4
        Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

        Wouldn't hurt to try



        Proud member of Team No

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        • Tyson ultima
          Autismspeaks.gov
          • Nov 2006
          • 1421

          #5
          Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

          I am very into this idea and i support you 100%

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          • Mrjonesw
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2004
            • 9

            #6
            Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

            can i join

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            • 00Razor00
              FFR Player
              • Jul 2006
              • 3530

              #7
              Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

              I'm definitely +1 for this idea. It's a great way to introduce the new and re-welcome the old to a game we all once and still play/played daily. Sure, some of the SMers have broken off into cliques and are here and there, but this is a good opportunity to revive what's left of it all and further expand it into something bigger.


              Originally posted by t-rogdor
              hey buddy are you looking for a good song to step because if so i really recommend you step In Front Of A Bus

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              • Xayphon
                sausage
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Nov 2008
                • 1630

                #8
                Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                Originally posted by leonid
                Wouldn't hurt to try
                Yep

                Maybe even combine Staiains Stepmania-Wiki (especially the WR section) with the Forum...?

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                • Shikari
                  FFR Player
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2055

                  #9
                  Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                  Originally posted by leonid
                  Wouldn't hurt to try
                  Exactly. As I said on one of my posts, who knows how big our community can grow with this new forum.



                  Mrjones, of course you can, any kind of help is welcome.

                  Originally posted by gold stinger
                  Shikari for resident profile artist

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                  • sakura080789
                    Rapture Universe
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 1751

                    #10
                    Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                    yes i am for real into this

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                    • Mrjonesw
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 9

                      #11
                      Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                      Originally posted by Shikari
                      Mrjones, of course you can, any kind of help is welcome.
                      awesome thanks bro.

                      i like stepmania a lot man, been makin files for a long time. i make easy stuff, dumps, you name it. i think we could really due with a change, this is a good idea. p.s. read through the other thread, don't have much to add, gundam-dude said it all, elitism needs to go away.

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                      • AsphyxZero
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1823

                        #12
                        Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                        SM database. K go

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                        • 00Razor00
                          FFR Player
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3530

                          #13
                          Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                          Originally posted by Mrjonesw
                          awesome thanks bro.

                          i like stepmania a lot man, been makin files for a long time. i make easy stuff, dumps, you name it. i think we could really due with a change, this is a good idea. p.s. read through the other thread, don't have much to add, gundam-dude said it all, elitism needs to go away.
                          This is part of the reason why the SM community needs a revamp.


                          Originally posted by t-rogdor
                          hey buddy are you looking for a good song to step because if so i really recommend you step In Front Of A Bus

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                          • alloyus
                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3269

                            #14
                            Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                            I'd be in on this

                            ^FFP_D0pey btw

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                            • AsphyxZero
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1823

                              #15
                              Re: A new beginning for our SM community.

                              this thread makes me want to step something, brb

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