Would this be a 15 or a 16?

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  • Goldenwind
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2006
    • 762

    #1

    Would this be a 15 or a 16?

    Combining 5 songs to be one after another.

    [13] Quasar
    [13] Uber Rave
    [13] Cyber Induction
    [14] Boss on Parade
    [12] Light Emitting Diode M

    15 minutes, at roughly 150/170/190/190/170 BPM, all stamina charts.

    15 or 16 difficulty?
    Last edited by Goldenwind; 10-20-2010, 01:49 PM.
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  • Psychotik
    Heckin' Cute
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jan 2008
    • 1727

    #2
    Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

    15, I'd say.
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    • Superfreak04
      D7 Elite Keymasher
      • Jan 2007
      • 2407

      #3
      Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

      If you make this file, I definitely want to try it.

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #4
        Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

        Quasar - never have considered this a 13 because the run speed is fairly slow.
        Uber Rave - VERY long run at the end is extremely draining.
        Cyber Induction - don't remember this chart too well.
        Boss on Parade - extremely long song that will probably crack many people who get this far into the marathon simply because it's draining. (Unless, you're talking about the fast version of Boss on Parade which is rated a 14 but really shouldn't be.)
        Light Emitting Diode M - way too easy for an ending. I'd much rather see Light Emitting Diode X for the ending because it too, ends with a fast run, but throws some 24ths to add an amazing fight to the finish.

        As you have it now, I'd probably consider this a 15.

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        • MilkChan
          Banned
          • Jul 2005
          • 432

          #5
          Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

          It'd be a 14. The Dragonforce Marathon is a 16 and its 3 (or 4 idr) 15s and a 16. These songs aren't all that bad by todays standards. It'd be a hard 14 or EASY 15 at most.

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          • ~kitty~
            FFR Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 988

            #6
            Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

            Originally posted by MilkChan
            It'd be a 14. The Dragonforce Marathon is a 16 and its 3 (or 4 idr) 15s and a 16. These songs aren't all that bad by todays standards. It'd be a hard 14 or EASY 15 at most.
            These standards seem to be ever-changing. Why?

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            • virus003
              FFR Veteran
              • Feb 2008
              • 1822

              #7
              Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

              Originally posted by ~kitty~
              These standards seem to be ever-changing. Why?
              because people used to suck at ffr

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              • OneHandNow
                Banned
                • Sep 2006
                • 5305

                #8
                Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                Should be a 14.

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                • TC_Halogen
                  Rhythm game specialist.
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  FFR Music Producer
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 19376

                  #9
                  Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                  Originally posted by MilkChan
                  It'd be a 14. The Dragonforce Marathon is a 16 and its 3 (or 4 idr) 15s and a 16. These songs aren't all that bad by todays standards. It'd be a hard 14 or EASY 15 at most.
                  ^ yeah. I was on the fence with 14 and 15.

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                  • MilkChan
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 432

                    #10
                    Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                    Originally posted by ~kitty~
                    These standards seem to be ever-changing. Why?
                    Because thats how progression works? Years ago Max 300 was considered really fast and a stamina killer. Now people read at twice that speed comfortably and its not even considered that good AAing it anymore.

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                    • ~kitty~
                      FFR Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 988

                      #11
                      Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                      Originally posted by MilkChan
                      Because thats how progression works? Years ago Max 300 was considered really fast and a stamina killer. Now people read at twice that speed comfortably and its not even considered that good AAing it anymore.
                      So these levels are based upon peoples skill levels relative to the difficulty of the song rather than the difficulty of the song itself?

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                      • Xiaounlimited
                        Eaguru
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 2832

                        #12
                        Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                        Originally posted by ~kitty~
                        So these levels are based upon peoples skill levels relative to the difficulty of the song rather than the difficulty of the song itself?
                        Is difficulty of the song not relative to the player themself?

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                        • NeoMaxx69
                          Bad at spread
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 424

                          #13
                          Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                          14

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                          • MilkChan
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 432

                            #14
                            Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                            Originally posted by ~kitty~
                            So these levels are based upon peoples skill levels relative to the difficulty of the song rather than the difficulty of the song itself?
                            uhhh what?

                            Basically one person will raise the bar of what was thought impossible or really really hard, then more people close to that persons skill level will push for that and so on and it trickles down. Then someone else will push the bar even higher and the process is repeated.

                            We've gone through this since the first DDR. A Full Combo on Paranoia would win 1st place in tournaments. Now most people can tie AAAs on DDR and its more or less a matter of consistency and not slipping up.

                            For ITG back in 05/06 passing Summer was still good. Now its common to see 96+ on it. Passing Air was ridiculous and now people have near SDEs on it. Even passing One more lovely is starting to become commonplace. Once a bar is set people naturally push faster to reach it than before when it wasnt achievable.

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                            • ~kitty~
                              FFR Player
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 988

                              #15
                              Re: Would this be a 15 or a 16?

                              Originally posted by MilkChan
                              uhhh what?

                              Basically one person will raise the bar of what was thought impossible or really really hard, then more people close to that persons skill level will push for that and so on and it trickles down. Then someone else will push the bar even higher and the process is repeated.

                              We've gone through this since the first DDR. A Full Combo on Paranoia would win 1st place in tournaments. Now most people can tie AAAs on DDR and its more or less a matter of consistency and not slipping up.

                              For ITG back in 05/06 passing Summer was still good. Now its common to see 96+ on it. Passing Air was ridiculous and now people have near SDEs on it. Even passing One more lovely is starting to become commonplace. Once a bar is set people naturally push faster to reach it than before when it wasnt achievable.
                              So basically this difficulty system is not due to how generally difficult it may be for people, but how it is for the group as they progress? That kind of seems like the difficulty system may start to fluctuate somewhere along the line, then, right?

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