IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

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  • Laharl
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 1821

    #1

    IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

    Sorry, guys, but it's true. It's surpassed the Super Nintendo in my eyes, and that's saying something because that's what I grew up with and what got me locked into gaming forever.

    Now, I should clarify that I consider PC gaming to be the way to go for 99% of all games, but it's not a "console" so it doesn't count.

    The DS is everything I could want in a gaming device. It's got the right control scheme (great D-pad on the Light and DSi, perfect amount of buttons, and a touch screen for when you need tricky stuff.) It's graphical depths have been maximized, meaning game developers can focus on making stuff FUN rather than spending most of their development on making it look pretty. It's not to say there aren't games that look pretty (FFIV remake comes to mind), but the point is there's a limit and people who use the system don't mind.

    That said, there's a dozen titles of old-school flavor that you just can't find anywhere else. It's about the only system with genuinely well-crafted platformers, from The New Super Mario Bros. to the eccentric Henry Hatsworth (look that game up, it's ****ing amazing.), to some great RPGs (some remade classics as well as lots of awesome Atlus titles, more than I can even think to list) to the best kinds of video games ever: puzzle games. I don't think I even need to comment on that because I mean. Puzzle games.
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  • -Fallen-
    xqsite OG
    • May 2005
    • 2836

    #2
    Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

    Great console? Yes.
    Incredibly well crafted? Yes
    Great game selection both new and old? Yes.

    One particular downside that I've experienced? The DS itself, very weak and fragile. The screen lost it's angles (the clicks that hold it up in place) very early on and makes it as a dust collector on my shelf.
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    • Grandiagod
      FFR Player
      • Jul 2004
      • 6122

      #3
      Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

      oh god

      please

      these threads

      die

      ****ing

      die
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      • TheNamesH
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2008
        • 155

        #4
        Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

        Nintendo DS Sales: 100 million
        Nintendo Wii Sales: 50.39 Million
        PSP: 50 million
        Xbox360 Sales: 30.20 million
        PS3: 22.73 million

        At the moment Nintendo is taking over the 7th generation video game world
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        • Afrombean
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2007
          • 285

          #5
          Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

          Handhelds are not consoles. It is not fair to compare the likes of the DS to the likes of the Wii. It'd be like comparing an ipod to a surround sound stereo with dedicated DVD-A player. They're totally different things intended for totally different experiences.

          PC is more of a console than handhelds are.

          Anyway, I just want to say that I hate the touch screen for the fact that it makes developers feel the need to shoehorn gimmicks. When I heard they were doing a top-down 3-D rendered Zelda game for the DS I got excited and was really going to buy one for it. Then I learned that Link was controlled by drawing on the touch screen. That's stupid. Some games it can work with well, particularly puzzles and probably RPG, but just because it is there doesn't mean it has to be used. I have a similar problem with the motion sensing on the Wii. Just because the system CAN do it doesn't mean the game HAS to use it.

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          • ThreeLeafIvy
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 59

            #6
            Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

            I'd agree that it's the better handheld (as opposed to the PSP), but yeah as Afrombean said handhelds=/=consoles.

            PSP has better graphics but DS has the far, far better games lineup once you get past all the crap.

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            • Laharl
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2003
              • 1821

              #7
              Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

              Originally posted by Afrombean
              Handhelds are not consoles. It is not fair to compare the likes of the DS to the likes of the Wii. It'd be like comparing an ipod to a surround sound stereo with dedicated DVD-A player. They're totally different things intended for totally different experiences.

              PC is more of a console than handhelds are.

              Anyway, I just want to say that I hate the touch screen for the fact that it makes developers feel the need to shoehorn gimmicks. When I heard they were doing a top-down 3-D rendered Zelda game for the DS I got excited and was really going to buy one for it. Then I learned that Link was controlled by drawing on the touch screen. That's stupid. Some games it can work with well, particularly puzzles and probably RPG, but just because it is there doesn't mean it has to be used. I have a similar problem with the motion sensing on the Wii. Just because the system CAN do it doesn't mean the game HAS to use it.
              I'll give you that the first generation of DS games relied on it as a gimmick too often, but the DS has been out long enough that game developers realize you shouldn't try to make, say, a platformer that requires twitch action entirely using the touch screen anymore. I can think of a dozen games where the touch screen compliments the normal SNES style controls very well. I'll even go grab my DS library for specific examples if you'd like.

              That's a point of contention I have with Wii game developers. Do what they did for Punch-Out. Add Wiimote functionality, but don't force it down people's throats. Most the folk I know who really got into the game play it NES-style with the controller held sideways, and I know this for fact because I work in a video game store and the majority of people who come in and try it out ask me to turn off the nunchuck accessory (there's a button you have to push, the demo unit is all complicated to keep people from stealing stuff). Sales numbers for that game have been pretty significant for a Wii title (roughly 300k in it's first week, and it wasn't even released in Japan yet) so I think there's something to it.

              And maybe "console" wasn't the right word. I should have said "platform". And yes, the PC is definitely a gaming platform, but I still don't count it for the purposes of discussing Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo or classic gaming platforms as it's kind of it's own entity.

              Originally posted by -Fallen-
              Great console? Yes.
              Incredibly well crafted? Yes
              Great game selection both new and old? Yes.

              One particular downside that I've experienced? The DS itself, very weak and fragile. The screen lost it's angles (the clicks that hold it up in place) very early on and makes it as a dust collector on my shelf.
              I'll give you that for the first generation of DS consoles, but the DS Lites have held up very well and the new DSi's are exceptionally well made.
              Last edited by Laharl; 06-29-2009, 03:41 PM.
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              • Izzy
                Snek
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2003
                • 9195

                #8
                Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                Every game that I got for the ds was so disappointing. They were all stupid because they tried to utilize the touch screen and make that the main aspect of the game. I don't want to run around and control characters by moving a styalis around on a screen. I stopped buying ds games because they are all so bad.

                Same with the wii. It is not what I want in a video game.

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                • plasmix
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3639

                  #9
                  Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                  I didn't enjoy New Super Mario Bros. In fact I can't really think of any DS games that compare to the SNES's best.

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                  • NFD
                    FFR Player
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4715

                    #10
                    Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

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                    • ninjaKIWI
                      plain old ugly ass dumbas
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3304

                      #11
                      Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                      Originally posted by plasmix
                      I didn't enjoy New Super Mario Bros. In fact I can't really think of any DS games that compare to the SNES's best.
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                      • Laharl
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1821

                        #12
                        Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                        If you guys haven't played Henry Hatsworth yet,

                        THAN YOU FAIL YOUR OWN VIDEO GAMER SOUL.

                        That is all I have to say about "lack of good titles on the DS."
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                        • jugglinguy
                          Use me as a porta-potty
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 4319

                          #13
                          Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                          Originally posted by Izzy
                          Every game that I got for the ds was so disappointing. They were all stupid because they tried to utilize the touch screen and make that the main aspect of the game. I don't want to run around and control characters by moving a styalis around on a screen. I stopped buying ds games because they are all so bad.

                          Same with the wii. It is not what I want in a video game.
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                          • -Fallen-
                            xqsite OG
                            • May 2005
                            • 2836

                            #14
                            Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                            The stylus pen gets pretty annoying quick but if you play in small doses it's not that bad. There's a bunch of games that are great but I still prefer playing SNES.
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                            • Izzy
                              Snek
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 9195

                              #15
                              Re: IMHO: DS is the best console of all time.

                              Imo the ds is good for games like wario ware, but not real games.

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