Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

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  • eplic
    FFR Player
    • Feb 2008
    • 29

    #1

    Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

    I can almost FC a master level song on FFR, while i go to step mania and its very very hard... I mean it doesnt feel like im hitting the arrows, and i guess in reality im not.. but Is there a reason behind this?
  • megamon88
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 2567

    #2
    Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

    It could be becuase the timing windows are smaller in stepmania.
    If you're getting a lot of goods this is probably the case.

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    • mnnicol
      U mirin'?
      • Jun 2007
      • 4262

      #3
      Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

      The number of boos in your replays are quite something...

      Unlike FFR, in Stepmania, if you mash mash mash, it won't keep you alive...it will result in lots of boos/goods
      - Retired Stepman
      - I lift things up and put them down

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      • eplic
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2008
        • 29

        #4
        Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

        My Replays i swear to god are INCORRECT! Iv played songs and matched them up with the replay. its NOT ME i dont understand that.

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        • bender5
          The 40% Iron Chef
          • Jan 2005
          • 4894

          #5
          Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

          Originally posted by eplic
          My Replays i swear to god are INCORRECT! Iv played songs and matched them up with the replay. its NOT ME i dont understand that.
          Replays have something called Average Misses still in them which don't exist anymore, so I'm not going to explain them.

          But if you mash a lot in fmo files, and then attempt to do the same thing you won't make it very far.

          In other words, you need to work on your control in both ffr and stepmania to get better

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          • Patashu
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Apr 2006
            • 8609

            #6
            Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

            the timing windows are a lot tighter in stepmania

            in +/- milliseconds, they are:
            Marvelous - 0 to 22.5
            Perfect - 22.5 to 45
            Great - 45 to 90
            Good - 90 to 135
            Boo - 135 to 180

            to combo you have to hit within 0.09 of a second
            to not miss (but still get goods/boos) you have to hit within 0.18 of a second
            and because of the existence of timing windows which break combo and give negative life, you can't full combo and pass any song by simply mashing faster than the notes
            as an approximation, if you hit 1 good/boo for every 10 great/perfect/marvelous your lifebar will remain steady
            Last edited by Patashu; 01-12-2009, 08:54 PM.
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            • mnnicol
              U mirin'?
              • Jun 2007
              • 4262

              #7
              Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

              Oh, I was referring to the massive amount of boos. Try less mashing and actually hitting the arrows.

              Edit: Yeah, Bender and Patashu got you covered lmao
              - Retired Stepman
              - I lift things up and put them down

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              • eplic
                FFR Player
                • Feb 2008
                • 29

                #8
                Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                Im NOT MASHING! God dont blame me for that! Im trying really hard to press the arrows as they come, but i keep missing them! and i KNOW that im playing them =(

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                • Mr. Bob
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 687

                  #9
                  Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                  Originally posted by eplic
                  Im NOT MASHING! God dont blame me for that! Im trying really hard to press the arrows as they come, but i keep missing them! and i KNOW that im playing them =(
                  raise ya cmod

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                  • megamon88
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 2567

                    #10
                    Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                    Originally posted by eplic
                    Im NOT MASHING! God dont blame me for that! Im trying really hard to press the arrows as they come, but i keep missing them! and i KNOW that im playing them =(
                    Well, if you're getting 50+ boos on most of your songs, it means that you're mashing. Even though you're trying, it doesn't mean that you're actually pressing the keys. Work on lowering your boos, averages and goods, then play stepmania.

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                    • DayMan951
                      yfwdbwdsb
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 2255

                      #11
                      Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                      Originally posted by eplic
                      Im NOT MASHING! God dont blame me for that! Im trying really hard to press the arrows as they come, but i keep missing them! and i KNOW that im playing them =(

                      Vertex BETA 1,326 - 322 - 83 - 24 - 214
                      Vertex BETA 1,334 - 336 - 64 - 21 - 127
                      Garyoutensei 881 - 224 - 50 - 13 - 109
                      Piano Etude (Demon Fire) 1,131 - 342 - 198 - 16 - 558
                      Piano Etude (Demon Fire) 1,078 - 377 - 163 - 69 - 303


                      Yea, you're mashing. Try easier songs.

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                      • Chaosvermin
                        FFR Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 140

                        #12
                        Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                        Is,
                        Demon Fire 1390 - 237 - 39 - 21 - 115 Combo 614
                        Mash mash mashing, yes or no?
                        Note: I'm not good with writing or speaking my thoughts/ideas, what i have written makes perfect sense to me but to you im not so sure. I apologise in advance.

                        It sounds like love is an amazing feeling. I guess its like dinosaurs, they sound amazing but I'm never gonna see one.
                        Some guy from some other forum.

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                        • L0NEvvolf
                          FFR Veteran
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 2068

                          #13
                          Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                          I have the same problem and I don't mash FFR just something about how SM is set up, I really dislike it.

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                          • Patashu
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8609

                            #14
                            Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                            Originally posted by Chaosvermin
                            Is,
                            Demon Fire 1390 - 237 - 39 - 21 - 115 Combo 614
                            Mash mash mashing, yes or no?
                            sounds like it's mashing the hardest parts
                            Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                            http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                            http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                            Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                            http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                            • NekoGon
                              щ(゚Д゚щ)
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 2709

                              #15
                              Re: Why do i have trouble playing Step Mania?

                              it's still mashing
                              do the same in sm and youll probably fail the song



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