Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

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  • ubersoldier
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2008
    • 15
    #1

    Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

    I'm not sure if this would be classed as a bug so I'm going to put it here. I'v noticed that almost ALL of the songs I play - with the exception of 1 every month or so - the replay is not exactly what I did. For example: I FC a song then I go to the replay to record it and the keystrokes are not the same as what I did, the replay will hit some arrows with the wrong timing or miss some entirely and give me a totally different score then what I actually got.

    Like the song KlungKung 2004 my actual "stats" were 1,619 - 49 - 0 - 0 - 1

    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...play/39064282/

    But the replay screws up - well it did when I watched it
    Why does this happen, and can it be fixed?

    If it's something that can be fixed that is.
    what the devil
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    • tangomango
      FFR Player
      • May 2007
      • 1134
      #2
      Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

      Well known issue, it's because replays still show the av-miss glitch.

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        • silvercomet1525
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2005
          • 601
          #3
          Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

          The cause of the random misses is something called an average-miss. It would basically make you miss a note because you would hit the early part of a later note instead of the actual note you intend to hit. It only happened on closely-packed repeated notes, or "jacks".

          This issue has been fixed on the FFR game engine, but it hasn't been fixed on the widget engine, which plays the replays. Hence the replay can get an average-miss where you don't.
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            • TC_Halogen
              Rhythm game specialist.
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2008
              • 19376
              #4
              Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

              Just in case that you do not know the av-miss glitch, let me try and explain it as best as I can.

              A while ago, FFR had this glitch where you could not hit repeated arrows in succession because how close they were, many times causing you to give you an average/miss combo--what is also known as an av-miss. The replay uses it's own engine to play back the replay, an engine which does not have the fix to the av-misses.

              Someone else, correct me if I'm wrong, please. =)

              EDIT: Ninja'd.

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                • x After Dawn x
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1613
                  #5
                  Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                  It's never going away, either. Xelius doesn't code for FFR anymore.
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                    • NSane
                      Retired Staff
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 475
                      #6
                      Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                      It is because of like mentioned the dreaded av-miss glitch. It may be able to be fixed, if they were to use the same engine that runs our game in the replay displayer. I'm not exactly sure as of how long it would take to change that, but probably not more than a day.
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                        • ubersoldier
                          FFR Player
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 15
                          #7
                          Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                          Oh, thanks for clearing that up for me.......that sucks. I like the replays.

                          Wait, would it be possible to just copy the engine code that the original game uses and just edit it to work with the replay?

                          I'm not a flash person so I have NO idea if this would even work. Hence the question.
                          what the devil

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                            • Patashu
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 8609
                              #8
                              Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                              If you're a particularly accurate player, though, knowing what score you got before watching you can usually figure out what misses are due to 'framers' and what ones aren't and just ignore them.
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                                • igotrhythm
                                  Fractals!
                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 6535
                                  #9
                                  Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                                  49-0-0-1 on Klung Kung is pretty awesome, dude.

                                  But yeah, Silver Comet pretty much nailed the problem.
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                                    • MikeShinoda12345
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                                      • Oct 2008
                                      • 1890
                                      #10
                                      Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                                      I have the same problem with my replays, and while the replays are inaccurate, they always have the number of perfects incorrect.

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                                        • ubersoldier
                                          FFR Player
                                          • Jan 2008
                                          • 15
                                          #11
                                          Re: Replay Function Is Incorrect Most Of The Time

                                          Well, I guess we will just have to wait until it's fixed. If that day ever comes....
                                          what the devil

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