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  • xinpig
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 1072

    #1

    I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

    I have devised a system of bargaining that goes like this:
    Person A wants to buy an item from Person B. Person B has a value that he will accept for the item, but Person A doesn't know what that value is. Person A makes an offer. If the offer is greater than or equal to the value Person B has decided on, then the sale is completed at that price. However, if the offer is less than the value Person B has in mind, then Person B refuses the offer, AND increases the amount he will take for the item by 1. The amounts are limited to integers in the range 1-100, so if the value is already 100, then it stays at 100.
    .
    Example: Person B has 60 dollars in mind. Person A offers 30 dollars, is declined and the value goes up to 61 dollars. Person A offers 45 dollars, is declined, value is 62. Person A offers 60 dollars, is declined, value is 63. Person A offers 75 dollars, and is accepted, so he pays 75 dollars.
    .
    I have decided that a simple way to determine offers is to have X, an initial offer, and Y, an increment which is added to the offer at each refusal (but capped at 100, of course.) The example above has X=30, Y=15.
    .
    1) How often does Person A pay 100 dollars when X = Y = 25? Express your answer as a percentage or decimal.
    2) What is the _average_ amount paid when X = Y = 25?
    3) What is the _average_ amount paid when X = 15, Y = 10?
    4) Find a function f(X,Y) such that f(X,Y) is equal to the average amount paid in this bargaining system, given initial offer X and increment Y. (Basically just give me a formula to find the average amount for ANY X,Y combo)
    5) Find X and Y that produce minimum average this function can offer. I believe I have found the minimum, but if yours is lower, then I'll be able to calculate that.
    6) Find a new system that beats the minimum found in (5). I'm not sure if such a system exists, but if you find one, kudos.

    Please PM me your answers. Use Logic Puzzle in the subject line.

    I will update with answers when I get enough. I may have prizes, if anyone wants to help out.
    Last edited by xinpig; 11-6-2008, 05:16 PM.



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  • xinpig
    FFR Player
    • Apr 2006
    • 1072

    #2
    Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

    Just post the answers here. first one in wins for that question. runners up too.
    Last edited by xinpig; 11-6-2008, 05:10 PM.



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    • devonin
      Very Grave Indeed
      Event Staff
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2004
      • 10120

      #3
      Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

      This isn't a CT thread...nor is it especially a game. To chit-chat with you.

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      • xinpig
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2006
        • 1072

        #4
        Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

        Well I just thought that this was a bit higher than the game thread... can we move it or do i repost?



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        • devonin
          Very Grave Indeed
          Event Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2004
          • 10120

          #5
          Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

          It's already been moved. Welcome to chit-chat.

          It's not a game, it looks more like someone doing your stats homework for you *grin*

          Just because a subject matter is vaguely complex or difficult doesn't automatically make it a CT thread. Critical Thinking is for debate and discussion, it doesn't have a monopoly on everything the least bit intellectual. I'd like to see a few more threads that get posted in CT and moved here actually just start here again. The general quality of CC threads couldn't help but improve a little.

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          • xinpig
            FFR Player
            • Apr 2006
            • 1072

            #6
            Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

            Its not homework. Just something I got from a friend in another game. Already solved it and just thought I would pass it on as well. I am in Computer Networking so no math classes for me!



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            • phe0nixblade
              Praise the sun mofo
              • Sep 2005
              • 4281

              #7
              Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

              its 54

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              • xinpig
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2006
                • 1072

                #8
                Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                for which one?
                the first?



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                • Professor Raine
                  FFR Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 1560

                  #9
                  Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                  I pay the man 100 dollars and tell him to shut up


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                  • phe0nixblade
                    Praise the sun mofo
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4281

                    #10
                    Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                    no its 54 always
                    2+2=54

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                    • xinpig
                      FFR Player
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1072

                      #11
                      Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                      I didnt think it was that complicated



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                      • Rubin0
                        FFR Player
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1276

                        #12
                        Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                        tldr
                        The weight of what I say depends on how you feel.

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                        • phe0nixblade
                          Praise the sun mofo
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 4281

                          #13
                          Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                          Originally posted by Rubin0
                          tldr
                          wow what the **** you lazy bum it's like 30 seconds of reading

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                          • Rubin0
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1276

                            #14
                            Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                            Originally posted by phe0nixblade
                            wow what the **** you lazy bum it's like 30 seconds of reading
                            ....tldr.


                            Last edited by Rubin0; 11-6-2008, 09:14 PM.
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                            • LLaMaSaUceYup
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3759

                              #15
                              Re: I have a logic puzzle for everyone.

                              talk about postwhore

                              and obviously you did read it
                              lol

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