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  • Netjet!
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    • Jan 2008
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    Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

    Yeah, I know a lot of people aren't in to Canadian Politics, so if you didn't know, they just kicked off an election for what party should be the "winning" or "leading" one, and who should be the prime minister.

    It's between the Green Party, the Liberal Party, the Conservative Party, the Bloc Quebecois and the NDP (National Democratic Party). More info on the parties: Party Information.

    A main site for Federal Election Coverage: Federal Election Coverage.

    Public Opinion Polls on who is projected to have the most percentage by different companies: Projected Percentages.

    So basically, we're having an election. That was all the information.

    In my opinion, I think that the Liberal Party should not win this year, because their leader (Stephane Dion) wants to impose carbon taxes, which tax you for your carbon dioxide consumption. This may seem like a good thing in terms on environment, which it could prove to be, but if this is implemented, our economy would suffer a big hit, because people who want to open businesses do not want to have to pay ANOTHER tax, along with the PST and GST (Provincial and Government Service Taxes). This will cause less companies opening, more closing, and more disgruntled citizens of this country called Canada. This tax would affect everyone that is living here that has to pay them. There will most probably be big issues on this and lead to worse things. This can all stop if Dion and the Liberals are not elected.

    So now, the choice. Who do I think should be the leading party? Well, it's kind of split down the middle. In my opinion, I don't think the Green Party should get it, because, well, just no. So it comes down to the already elected Conservatives, and the NDP. This is where I can't decide. They both have great standpoints, and great leaders. I'm just not sure which should win. Even though I can't vote yet, I'd say one of these would be the best choice for a candidate.


    What do you think? Post your opinions here.
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  • sarahxjane
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    • Aug 2005
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    #2
    Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

    Well, I never really follow politics, even when there are elections in Canada.

    I just had a epiphany that I'm old enough to vote, so I should really look into who I'm going to vote for.

    Right now, I have no idea.
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    • kommisar[os]
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      • Apr 2006
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      #3
      Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

      As much as i hate conservatives, harper didn't do a too bad job. I am however never voting for liberals until stephane dion gets off the liberal leader throne. They need their rep back. This year i'm voting for NDP since Jack layton is making more sense than any party right now. I know he won't win, but they need more seats and every vote counts at this point. Funny thing is, if everyone our age actually voted, he'd have about 20% more chance of winning
      Last edited by kommisar[os]; 09-16-2008, 02:31 PM.

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      • Netjet!
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        • Jan 2008
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        Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

        That's what I'm saying. Jack Layton is a genious, and Stephen Harper isn't doing a bad job atm. Dion just sucks castrated donkey balls though.
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        • Reach
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          • Jun 2003
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          #5
          Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

          In my opinion, I think that the Liberal Party should not win this year, because their leader (Stephane Dion) wants to impose carbon taxes, which tax you for your carbon dioxide consumption. This may seem like a good thing in terms on environment, which it could prove to be, but if this is implemented, our economy would suffer a big hit, because people who want to open businesses do not want to have to pay ANOTHER tax, along with the PST and GST (Provincial and Government Service Taxes). This will cause less companies opening, more closing, and more disgruntled citizens of this country called Canada. This tax would affect everyone that is living here that has to pay them. There will most probably be big issues on this and lead to worse things. This can all stop if Dion and the Liberals are not elected.
          This is a fairly cookie cutter argument I hear over and over again, and the reasoning reminds me of a horse with blinders on, incapable of seeing the bigger picture.

          A lot of countries have already imposed a carbon tax with great success. That aside, do you not think that the increased climates will not increase severe climatic events that will in turn require relief, and thus hurt taxpayers, industries etc, costing billions upon billions of dollars? This is only going to get worse. Insurance costs a lot of money.

          Also, the market is going to continue to drive up prices of things like oil anyway, so why NOT start taxing them to give green alternatives a competitive edge for the future? Where are we going to be in 100 years if we do not start thinking ahead?

          I could go on, and though I could make several arguments potentially against a carbon tax, I don't think you've made any good ones.


          I most certainly won't be voting Conservative for this election. I'm a scientist, and Conservative governments time and time again do not fund scientific research and the like (Surprise! Stephen Harper is clueless again and again in scientific issues. He was an idiot then, I did not vote for him then and definitely will not now), so I'm going to be voting Liberal in this election I think.
          Last edited by Reach; 09-16-2008, 02:51 PM.

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          • fido123
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            • Sep 2005
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            Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

            The Conservatives aren't that bad, in fact they're pretty OK but I don't like how they're a bit to easy to give into American demands. He keeps allowing American cooperations to use our resources and Canada doesn't see any benefit out of it such as tariffs worth half a ****. I like Jack Layton but the NDP did a ****ty job last time they were in office and gave us a huge debt, but when I'm of voting age I'm probably going to consider voting for them hoping Jack Layton will do a better job.

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            • boondocks77
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              • Jun 2007
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              Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

              Liberals.
              'nuff said.

              Harper's full term in office hasn't even ended yet. That must mean something. I just hate Conservative values.
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              • Go_Oilers_Go
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                • Sep 2004
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                #8
                Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                Originally posted by boondocks77
                Harper's full term in office hasn't even ended yet. That must mean something.
                The election was called by the Conservatives as an attempt to gain a majority government. That's what it means.

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                • x After Dawn x
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                  I predict that the Conservatives will win the election again.
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                  • Gibson63
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                    • Jan 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                    Originally posted by boondocks77
                    Liberals.
                    'nuff said.
                    wtf...liberals sucks...lol why the hell would u vote for them..they are uber crap


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                    • Verruckter
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                      • Apr 2004
                      • 2707

                      #11
                      Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                      Originally posted by kommisar[os]
                      As much as i hate conservatives, harper didn't do a too bad job. I am however never voting for liberals until stephane dion gets off the liberal leader throne. They need their rep back. This year i'm voting for NDP since Jack layton is making more sense than any party right now. I know he won't win, but they need more seats and every vote counts at this point. Funny thing is, if everyone our age actually voted, he'd have about 20% more chance of winning
                      You can't do much with a minoritary government.

                      Also I'm not sure who I'm voting for yet but I'm probably voting for Layton. He's like the Canadian Barack Obama, cool, hip and trendy, all the kids like him (**** you, it's an excellent reason to vote for him).
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                      • devonin
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                        • Apr 2004
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                        #12
                        Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                        If we want to talk environmentalism, I'm in favour of the NDP if solely because Layton seems to be the only federal leader who actively supports the cap-and-trade policy for carbon emissions that the Ontario and Quebec provincial governments signed on to.

                        Since the vast majority of both population and industry in Canada are in those two provinces, and Premier McGunity and Premier Charest are both fairly popular and fully behind the plan, that lends points towards the NDP right off the bat.

                        The problem with the election this year is that Harper himself is quite popular, but the Conservatives as a whole aren't; whereas the Liberal party as a whole is fairly popular, but nobody likes Stephan Dion as their leader. It makes it a hard call for people who aren't prepared to go far enough left to vote for the NDP.

                        Also, am I the only one who thinks that the PQ should really seriously consider running candidates outside Quebec? I mean, find people who support all of the PQ platform except for Quebec Sovereignty (And more PQ members than you think are like that) and I think they could do very well in Ontario and the Maritimes.

                        Out of all the leaders, I think Gilles Duceppe would actually make the best Prime minister, but since they only run people in Quebec, it will never happen.

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                        • Verruckter
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                          • Apr 2004
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                          #13
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                          PQ is a joke IMO.

                          Also, I heard none of the programs speak about investing in arts and culture. Tsk tsk tsk.
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                          • devonin
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                            #14
                            Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                            Welcome to Critical Thinking. Explain your statements or don't make them.

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                            • kommisar[os]
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                              • Apr 2006
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                              #15
                              Re: Canadian Federal Election '08 - Who Should Win?

                              the quebec party is focusing on seperating which is 57% of the province. nobody else honestly cares and harper was actually in favor. they have such an arrogant mentality which is why most people in other provinces hate quebecers (i'm half quebec nationality so this isn't a blind statement). If i were to vote for someone else than NDP, it would be liberals even though i'm not very confident with stephane dion.


                              also reach the problem with thinking ahead is that most people aren't that smart and don't really care. all they want is to have results happening quickly. most people voting won't get the effects of neglecting the problems they will create years to come. quite sad.
                              Last edited by kommisar[os]; 09-23-2008, 07:01 PM.

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