How To Judge A Simfile -Alioth Perspective-

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You could have gotne more in-depth with things to look for when you judge a simfile, lol.

If this is your perspective, I don't understand what you meant about my method, since what you said is basically what I do lol

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hey ******s scroll down and read -NPV PERSPECTIVE-

Re: How To Judge A Simfile -Alioth Perspective-

Good point but I agree with npv, more information please.

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Not trying to be disrespectful, but, that really wasn't very insightful.

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I guess I'll include what I do. I know it's your perspective of judging and such, but I guess it doesn't hurt for me to include my own since people will be interested on judging.

For fun, well, that's pretty self-explanatory. If you wanted to quit the hell out the moment you start playing, you give it a 0/5. If you would basically make it the only file you ever play again, you give it a 5/5. If you were neutral on it; you're fine with playing it but it's not something you'd play often, you could give it a 2/5 or 3/5 (or 2.5/5 lol). For me, I include intensity of the file (difficulty; like if it's insanely hard but well-utilized and stuff) and how well it's layered (how well it works out and feels to play) as part of the fun factor.

Technical accuracy and such- correct syncage, pitch relevancy, consistency, and stuff like that. Patterns would be more over as fun, since you can make a correct pattern but make it annoying to play. Correct syncage is really important (not just like oh bpm changes and colored arrows; stepping the right number of arrows to a pattern and stuff). If you make it an offsync dump, nobody will play it, unless it's like a joke file, obviously. Syncage and stuff takes up the majority of it- probably around 60%. Consistency is also quite important. If somebody steps one sound and randomly changes out of nowhere, it's really awkward and sometimes annoying to play. I often don't see many consistency errors, but when I do, and it's quite noticeable, it plays a large factor into how it turns out (like if it's holy **** what are you doing for the whole file; changing **** every measure, I'll give it a 0/5). Pitch relevancy problems, if, when changed, don't break the flow of the file and make it annoying, are also a factor if they're noticeable. Some of the jumpstream in Casket of Star is a decent example- it has the same jump pattern to different notes in the melody. If it was pitch relevant, I'd give that file like a 4.5/5, but because of PR problems, it winds up just barely short of a 4/5 (like 3.9, but I would note it as a 3.5/5).

wait did I just do a how to judge or a how to step lol

Re: How To Judge A Simfile -Alioth Perspective-

yea sorry about that, i got lazy as fuc before lol

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Pretty insightful information there.

One thing to add on judging simfile is that it has to be fun for people to play. Pitch relevancy is crucial to this section because stepmania is somewhat like a piano. High notes go to the right, and low-pitch notes go to the left. Obviously if you followed the pitch relevancy, but if the file is awkward to play, don't apply it in the first place.

Sync and placing notes are also important. Usually colored notes aren't used very much unless in rare cases (yess's crusin), and randomly putting colored notes makes the simfile a pain to play for other people. Offsync simfiles are also a pain since you would be getting perfects or greats when you would've gotten a marvelous in the first place. Usually, using the "little" mod with autosync helps a lot.

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Sometimes pitch relevancy can be utilized in the opposite manner- higher notes go on the left and lower notes go on the right, but personally I find it only works in very special occasions where it's hard to cram PR into 4 different spots. If you're going to be all PR, don't make everything this way. I have one file I'm currently working on, and I've utilized this for one measure, and it works, but don't try too much because it can get awkward sometimes.

For good examples of well synced files with colored arrows, look at some of GLoVE's stuff such as In The Presence of Enemies Part II, Not Again, and stuff like that, off the top of my head. A bunch of yesssss's files too; Cruisin' as mentioned by Legacy, Vibratile maybe (don't remember too well), Blue Rose, etc. ==Planet KARMA== (i think that's the title lol) has a lot of colored arrows too, so yeah; Thermosphere, blahblahblah I can go on for forever. Colored notes aren't really "rare," unless you're stepping electronic music. A lot of normal instrumental music (Dream Theatre, OSTER Project, etc.) can wind up having colored arrows and stuff.

Re: How To Judge A Simfile -Alioth Perspective-

judge however the hell you feel like it. weather it be based on fun or technicality makes no difference. you judge from what you feel is good in a file, thus it being your personal opinion

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there are two criteria to judge a simfile by: 'music on' and 'music off'

music on: can I feel the music when I play this? do the steps, mines, rhythms, patterns, use of jumps/freezes/layering, bpm tricks, et cetera exemplify and flow with the music?

music off: are the patterns fun to do, do they stay creative and does the chart have its own uniqueness around it?

then dock points for bad quantization/sync et all

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people spell out et cetera to sound smart

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1. Simfile judgement is overall quite subjective, especially in fun factor/difficulty, so usually every judge's comment is different from others.

2. As npv said there're things we can do objectively such as sync, PR(occasionally), consistency, etc. If a file has an obvious issue with those factors, most of experienced judges would be able to notice.

The solution for 1 is to have multiple judges, for 2 is to get more skilled/experienced judge.

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darn you figured it out

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Alioth, do realize that others will judge the way they want to, weather good or not. This might be helpful for newbies and n00bs (hopefully), but regulars need not apply.

fishin' for a sticky and you got a boot i c

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do you realize that you tried to start drama and failed at it? haha, gg though =/