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  • HeZe
    FFR Veteran
    • Jul 2006
    • 556
    #1

    Over The Frail Dream

    This song is absolutely VERY CHALLENGING. BPM about 200 and long streams. Can't be the first challenging song I can't fc

    Originally posted by ilikexd
    Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.
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    • EDEdDNEdDYFaN
      FFR Veteran
      • May 2003
      • 2119
      #2
      Re: Over The Frail Dream

      I believe tass said that had the song been a little longer, it would have been very challenging. But since the song is so short, only challenging.

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        • bluguerrilla
          FFR Player
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2006
          • 3966
          #3
          Re: Over The Frail Dream

          Index friendly stream is hard for me to combo, fun sim though. I agree, it's a 9.

          I'd say Survive is also a 9 but feh.

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            • Adamaja456
              Absurd
              • Dec 2006
              • 6433
              #4
              Re: Over The Frail Dream

              yea its pretty easy
              and the streams are not that long.

              btw, i love this song.


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                • HeZe
                  FFR Veteran
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 556
                  #5
                  Re: Over The Frail Dream

                  Can't agree with you. Balloon fever and silence are both easier than this and they are 11
                  Last edited by HeZe; 02-22-2008, 05:25 AM.

                  Originally posted by ilikexd
                  Your strengths and weaknesses may never change, but they will still get better as you do, albeit disproportionately of course. You're bad at jumpstream, so just play jumpstream files. Play them for hours. Play ones you have to struggle to SDG, and play ones hard enough to make your hands and arms burn. Then play them some more. Then, the day after the next, play them again. If you aren't already doing this, you can't say you're stuck. Plateauing doesn't really exist, if you aren't improving it means you haven't put in the effort needed to improve, or your effort has been misapplied. It's more of a problem at really high levels, but never totally concrete.

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                    • EAGAMES
                      Y0FACE!
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 4931
                      #6
                      Re: Over The Frail Dream

                      I saw it's a challenging but because of fast streams it makes it seem harder and it is a tad harder to AAA. *Still havn't AAA it*
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                        • y0ttabyte
                          1208925819614629174706176
                          • May 2007
                          • 417
                          #7
                          Re: Over The Frail Dream

                          From the front page:

                          Over the Frail Dream is a fairly well known StepMania song by Phantasma. For FFR, it is stepped by SulferDragon and has some 200bpm stream, but not much. Mostly 8th notes. I’ve rated it a 9. I’m aware it’s a 10 with framer issues, but I’m assuming down the road that that fix will be public, so I’m starting to rate based on that assumption.
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                            • -Yukari-
                              FFR Player
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 930
                              #8
                              Re: Over The Frail Dream

                              I just find the length bias in difficulty ratings kind of stupid. I know I've said this before, but a pattern that is hard enough to be a difficulty 10 is a pattern that's hard enough to be a difficulty 10. If it's 40 seconds of difficulty 10 patterns, that doesn't make it a 40 second difficulty 9, that makes it a 40 second difficulty 10.

                              {Rose} is easier than this and is a difficulty 10.... makes me laugh.
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                                • omgitznpv
                                  cohoooooon
                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 6980
                                  #9
                                  Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                  Originally posted by y0ttabyte
                                  From the front page:

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                                    • Go_Oilers_Go
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                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 1436
                                      #10
                                      Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                      I just suck. So it makes no difference to me.

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                                        • thegeddupnoise
                                          FFR Player
                                          • Oct 2006
                                          • 231
                                          #11
                                          Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                          Yeah, it's totally a 10. The streams are ridiculously fast for a 9 difficulty.
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                                            • EnR
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                                              FFR Simfile Author
                                              • Jul 2007
                                              • 8431
                                              #12
                                              Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                              Originally posted by thegeddupnoise
                                              Yeah, it's totally a 10. The streams are ridiculously fast for a 9 difficulty.
                                              lol I sightread AAA'd it, so not a 10.
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                                                • devonin
                                                  Very Grave Indeed
                                                  Event Staff
                                                  FFR Simfile Author
                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 10120
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                                  Originally posted by -Yukari-
                                                  I just find the length bias in difficulty ratings kind of stupid. I know I've said this before, but a pattern that is hard enough to be a difficulty 10 is a pattern that's hard enough to be a difficulty 10. If it's 40 seconds of difficulty 10 patterns, that doesn't make it a 40 second difficulty 9, that makes it a 40 second difficulty 10.

                                                  {Rose} is easier than this and is a difficulty 10.... makes me laugh.
                                                  But if you consider the song to be rated based on its difficulty with respect to AAA'ing and FC'ing rather than just the raw difficulty of the steps themselves, songs that are quite long give more time for something minute to go badly. It is much harder to AAA a song of consistant difficulty 10 that is 6:00 compared to a song that is consistantly difficulty 10 that is 1:30. Lag, twitchy finger, etc.

                                                  If you assume that the length factors into the songs you're comparing new songs to, it makes more sense that the length would factor into the one you're trying to gauge.

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                                                    • Kekeb
                                                      davai
                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                      • 2765
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                                      For example Brooks Was Here... that song is "challenging" but look at the song length, very short. I sight read AAA'd it (un-recorded)

                                                      Also another thing. Songs should not only be rated lower but some higher. For examples those long emo songs in rock. AAA'ing those, a pain.
                                                      Last edited by Kekeb; 02-21-2008, 01:26 PM.

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                                                        • omgitznpv
                                                          cohoooooon
                                                          FFR Simfile Author
                                                          • Aug 2005
                                                          • 6980
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Over The Frail Dream

                                                          Originally posted by Kekeb
                                                          For example Brooks Was Here... that song is "challenging" but look at the song length, very short. I sight read AAA'd it (un-recorded)
                                                          If that song was 3 minutes or longer with the same difficulty steps throughout, I doubt many could sightread AAA it lol
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