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  • Flyleef
    FFR Player
    • May 2007
    • 401

    #1

    My First Jazz Song!

    please listen and tell me what you think! I love the sound of this, I hope others do..

    Last edited by Flyleef; 12-5-2007, 04:02 PM.
    No matter how many times the colors of the seasons change,
    these feelings will never wither, swaying like a flower
    If this is just a dream, then let it be a dream. I don't care.
    My heart, filled with loving radiance
    Is forever thinking of you.

    These words that we play are a pleasant melody
    All I want is to have you by my side,
    so that I won't lose my smiling eyes
    even on a night when we can't see the twinkling of the stars.
  • lord_carbo
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 6222

    #2
    Re: My First Jazz Song!

    Not only is it not jazz, but it isn't even close.

    The music elitist inside of me says you really shouldn't modestly attempt to recreate jazz music until you know jazz theory, which requires a really good understanding of basic music theory.

    Jazz drums also use lots of syncopation, lots of crash + ride cymbals. No claps.

    Try rooting your melody in a ii7-V7-I chord progression. If you want to get fancy try something like ii7-V09-iii-I. Be creative.

    Keeping working on it.
    last.fm

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    • devonin
      Very Grave Indeed
      Event Staff
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Apr 2004
      • 10120

      #3
      Re: My First Jazz Song!

      A walking baseline does not a jazz tune make.

      Carbo is right in that jazz theory is a unique sort of animal. If you haven't done all that much work with jazz, or even swing/big band, trying to put together a jazzy sound can be pretty tough. Even though it's swing and not jazz, you might benefit from a few listens to bicycle break here on FFR, if just for the percussion style.

      Tune sounds nice, and I like it, but jazz it really ain't.
      Last edited by devonin; 12-6-2007, 05:13 PM.

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      • lord_carbo
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2004
        • 6222

        #4
        Re: My First Jazz Song!

        Originally posted by devonin
        If you haven't done all that much work with jazz, or even swing/big band, trying to put together a jazzy sound can be pretty tough.
        I concur wholeheartedly and even then some.
        last.fm

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        • devonin
          Very Grave Indeed
          Event Staff
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Apr 2004
          • 10120

          #5
          Re: My First Jazz Song!

          Originally posted by lord_carbo
          I concur wholeheartedly and even then some.
          As a jazz and swing drummer, I'm well aware how specific and important jazz style percussion is.

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          • lord_carbo
            FFR Player
            • Dec 2004
            • 6222

            #6
            Re: My First Jazz Song!

            Originally posted by devonin
            jazz and swing drummer
            Oh cool.
            last.fm

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            • devonin
              Very Grave Indeed
              Event Staff
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Apr 2004
              • 10120

              #7
              Re: My First Jazz Song!

              Originally posted by KgZ
              Swing is a form of jazz

              In (most) cases Swing is an upbeat jazz tune
              Yes and no, but I consider swing to be stylistically distinct enough fromjazz to classify it as a seperate genre. I mean, pretty much every kind of music traces back to older styles, but we still call them by seperate names.

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              • Flyleef
                FFR Player
                • May 2007
                • 401

                #8
                Re: My First Jazz Song!

                So it's more like swing then...? O_0
                No matter how many times the colors of the seasons change,
                these feelings will never wither, swaying like a flower
                If this is just a dream, then let it be a dream. I don't care.
                My heart, filled with loving radiance
                Is forever thinking of you.

                These words that we play are a pleasant melody
                All I want is to have you by my side,
                so that I won't lose my smiling eyes
                even on a night when we can't see the twinkling of the stars.

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                • devonin
                  Very Grave Indeed
                  Event Staff
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 10120

                  #9
                  Re: My First Jazz Song!

                  I think the general consensus is "While you're getting there, you're missing a few key elements of jazz/swing style music"

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                  • robertsona
                    missa in h-moll
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3997

                    #10
                    Re: My First Jazz Song!

                    Stop ganging up on him...

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                    • robertsona
                      missa in h-moll
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3997

                      #11
                      Re: My First Jazz Song!

                      I just read you three posting a lot of stuff and figured you were ganging up on him. Come on, you think I read posts? Pfft.

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                      • Solomine Gray
                        Forum User
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 529

                        #12
                        Re: My First Jazz Song!

                        Originally posted by robertsona
                        I just read you three posting a lot of stuff
                        Originally posted by robertsona
                        Come on, you think I read posts?
                        lmao

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                        • l Endorphin l
                          Maybe
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 574

                          #13
                          Re: My First Jazz Song!

                          I agree with most everyone on here.
                          Although the music is catchy and what not.

                          The only thing that makes it jazz is the fact that jazz theory is in every ounce of music.

                          Carbo had some great suggestions for chord progressions. ii-V-i is a very common jazz progression, and for now you could stick with that and progress off.

                          Jazz is a wonderful genre, being that you can take the simplest of chord progressions and continue to add on more and more. Its such a creative and imaginative type of music.

                          You can take that chord progression and add different voicing to it, add 7ths (Speaking of which most jazz is in 7th chord scales ex. M7-m7-m7-M7-Dom7-m7-m7b5) 6ths, 9ths, 11ths, #11ths for you Lydian fans.

                          Its just such an amazing music.

                          The bass, depending on what kind of jazz, or more so who is playing it.
                          Can be anything from a walk, to something more arpeggio based. Key with the latter of the two is to not stick to just the root chords, work around the chord tones, It adds a lot of depth.

                          Drums, well. I don't play jazz drums, but it can be anything from crazy to soft, brushes, and what not.
                          Lotsa ride and some fills where needed, more snare than kick, high hat keeping the time with the pedal.

                          But still. pretty good music. Just not jazz

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                          • robertsona
                            missa in h-moll
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3997

                            #14
                            Re: My First Jazz Song!

                            I almost read that post.

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