Good and average are so close they might as well be combined

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  • GregHead
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2003
    • 306

    #1

    Good and average are so close they might as well be combined

    I say streamline each arrow into three possibilities:

    Miss
    Hit!
    Perfect!!

    On a side note, I've been shilling for this as well

    "boo" initiates flag which remains until 5 more arrows pass by

    a "boo" while the flag is on is changed to a "BOO!", which loses more points, breaks your combo, and resets the flag to last another 5 arrows, which opens up the door to subsequent "BOO!"s and big penalties to button mashers
  • Brainmaster07
    FFR Player
    • Jun 2003
    • 2891

    #2
    But then everyone song up to 10 difficulty would be AAA'd...

    EDIT: But I do like the boo thing.

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    • Cenright
      You thought I was a GUY?!
      • Sep 2003
      • 3139

      #3
      ...not if combos are used almost none.
      And I disagree with only the 3 options. That makes people too generalized.
      http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

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      • GregHead
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2003
        • 306

        #4
        Originally posted by Brainmaster07
        But then everyone song up to 10 difficulty would be AAA'd...

        EDIT: But I do like the boo thing.
        Anything defined as good now would be hit, so the standards for perfect wouldn't be lowered.

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        • Brainmaster07
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2003
          • 2891

          #5
          true... it just seems to... general. I'd perfer to see marvs then see something taken away, but that's my opinion.

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          • Privateer
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2003
            • 2962

            #6
            Basically, you mean once you hit a boo, if you get a boo within the next 5 arrows, you get a miss.

            That's a neat idea, and it could be refined into a working idea.

            As for the merging of averages and goods, I say they just fix the timing windows to be more spaced. Synth should also rename them because clearly an average isn't average.

            Perfect, great, good, miss, boo. Works for me.

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            • alainbryden
              Seen your member
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Dec 2003
              • 2873

              #7
              I can see you thought about this... but NO.

              Privateer, I like your suggestions much better.
              ~NEIGH

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              • User6773

                #8
                Boowhoring doesn't win people challenges......boos take down your score just as much as a miss does. It simply doesn't break your combo.

                Maybe boo could be redefined to reduce your combo by 1?

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                • Arch0wl
                  Banned
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 6344

                  #9
                  Boo should just take off more points, in a nutshell.

                  However, I think FFR should go by this:

                  Perfect
                  Good
                  Miss

                  Pop'n Music goes by Great Good Bad and it's awesome.. so if Pop'n could do it, FFR could too.

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                  • Cenright
                    You thought I was a GUY?!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3139

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brainmaster07
                    true... it just seems to... general. I'd perfer to see marvs then see something taken away, but that's my opinion.

                    I think it is an overgeneralization also. It gets rid of the singularity of your score. Getting rid of averages makes all those people who get them now get goods instead. You artificially bring up the bottom.
                    http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...Cube_in_55.mpg

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                    • EmperorSteele
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 112

                      #11
                      Well, maybe renaming them is in order. Instead of "Average", it should be "poor". Cuz you can hit a key when it's only half-aligned with the arrow, and it accepts it... but that's hardly "average" or "good". The point is to match the beats and arrows precisly, right?

                      And you cant get any better than perfect... thats like, within a nanosecond or something, right? What would the point of "marvelous" be then?

                      But dont do anywhting to penalize boowhores... we have it bad enough if we have to resort to that to begin with!
                      -STEELE =^_^= \\/,,

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                      • User6773

                        #12
                        As inventor of the boo system, I still contend that boowhoring does not win people challenges or high scores.

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                        • Arch0wl
                          Banned
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 6344

                          #13
                          I boowhored a part in Party4U and got in the top 3

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                          • banditcom
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6243

                            #14
                            80% of the losses I have in challenges are from people boo-whoring.

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                            • aleco
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1054

                              #15
                              Like classical songs- it's hard not to boo-whore! At least for me. So only very good players would still get a good score.
                              600th post, if anyone cares.
                              I still exist...

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