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  • aperson
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2003
    • 3431

    #1

    Axil

    The introduction for a much larger piece of work I'm doing.

    Apparently I've finally found a way to make reaktor my melodywhore...

  • DJCynispin
    FFR Player
    • Nov 2003
    • 101

    #2
    Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)

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    • SuperGreenX
      Tangy music sauce maker
      FFR Music Producer
      • Mar 2003
      • 354

      #3
      Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!

      Anyways, quite cool stuff. I'm really diggin what you've made here. Good ambient!

      Wonderful Bite - New SGX Album! You can get it for free, yo!

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      • aperson
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3431

        #4
        Originally posted by DJCynispin
        Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)
        No, anything that you can dance to isn't interesting enough for me really.

        Originally posted by SuperGreenX
        Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!
        After 4 months reaktor still scares the crap out of me... So complicated and powerful.

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        • SpookG
          (For Great Justice!)
          FFR Music Producer
          • Dec 2002
          • 829

          #5
          Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

          There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone


          Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

          Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

          Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

          DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick shit with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

          Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson

          Royal For Great Justice! Electronic Music est. 1999
          .
          kerBLAM



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          • aperson
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            • Jul 2003
            • 3431

            #6
            Originally posted by SpookG
            Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

            There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone


            Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

            Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

            Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

            DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick (#$% with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

            Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson
            ...Is validated by:

            Originally posted by aperson
            The introduction for a much larger piece of work I'm doing
            Also, most dancefloor beats bore me is what I'm saying. Hoo fucking ray you can write a 4/4 piece with some standard club drumsets... that gets old after so long.

            This is what interests me: http://zastari.acunett.com/vo_stream_bas.mp3

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            • DJCynispin
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2003
              • 101

              #7
              Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.

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              • DJCynispin
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2003
                • 101

                #8
                By the way, DJ Spooky rawks. He gets a lot of his influence from movie soundtrack composers like John Williams and Danny Elfman. White B-Boys know how it's done.

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                • aperson
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3431

                  #9
                  I've listened to DJ Spooky, doesn't really hold my attention.

                  And Cynispin, if you are so omniscient of the dance floor world, prove me wrong with some mp3s.

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                  • SpookG
                    (For Great Justice!)
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 829

                    #10
                    This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

                    Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back. There is not point in saying something if the other party will refuse to even consider it.

                    Please shut up now.

                    Royal For Great Justice! Electronic Music est. 1999
                    .
                    kerBLAM



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                    • JustJono
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 283

                      #11
                      Oh well, some people take critism harder or looser than others. No biggy.

                      Aperson,

                      The beginning of your track almost made me think I was watching The Matrix. I like the ambience in there.
                      Jonathan Cruz

                      http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

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                      • JustJono
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 283

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DJCynispin
                        Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.
                        Hey, IDM's aren't that bad.. well then again, I'm not sure. The only IDM I've heard and like is Aphex Twin - Flim.
                        Jonathan Cruz

                        http://www.mp3unsigned.com/Jono.asp

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                        • eyespewgreekfire
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 372

                          #13
                          umm, interesting dancable music is pretty common. Check out hallucinogen at www.shpongle.com/hallucinogen
                          if you dont call that shit dancable and interesting then i dont know what is

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                          • jewpinthethird
                            (The Fat's Sabobah)
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 11711

                            #14
                            I am a big fan of "IDM", but mainly the Ambient-esque style. I dont much like the hardcore fragen drums that drive you half insane. I am more into chill whatnot. Thus, being the reason I really like Aphex Twin.

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                            • aperson
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3431

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SpookG
                              This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..
                              Yes, I'm sorry I defend myself against some over-the-top criticism...

                              Originally posted by SpookG
                              Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back.
                              Some of it is positive. The orchestra warming up? Exactly what I was going for.

                              Originally posted by SpookG
                              Please shut up now.
                              FAGGOT!!!11

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