FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

**Xception704** · 08-5-2007, 04:11 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

That's a good idea, and good job finding a form.

Then again ... I don't want the forums flooded with 13 year-olds WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE PROPER GRAMMAR.

**devonin** · 08-5-2007, 04:21 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

You can only use this as a means to play the game if Synth decides he wants to make his site COPPA compliant.

He has two choices:

1/ Find a way for people under 13 to prove they have parental permission, while at the same time compiling in legelese a fairly extensive document detailing precisely what personal information about those under 13 his site collects, the ways if any they will be used, and the assurences that no information will be shared/sold with outside sources

or

2/ Not allowing those under 13 to use the site.

It seems pretty clear to me which choice Synth has made already.

**Tasselfoot** · 08-5-2007, 05:48 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

devonin: we do allow users under 13 onto the site if they fill out and fax in a COPPA. we just have not made it very easy for them to do such at this current stage.

not my call as to how it's handled in the future, but, as you've said... it's pretty clear how we handle it currently.

**Engler** · 08-5-2007, 06:01 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

Originally posted by Xception704

That's a good idea, and good job finding a form.

Then again ... I don't want the forums flooded with 13 year-olds WHO TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE PROPER GRAMMAR.

There are plenty of 17 year-olds who post like that, too. I suppose it all comes down to the person.

**Adamaja456** · 08-5-2007, 06:05 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

Originally posted by midnghtraver

I, like many other's out there, have been banned from the forums for being under the age of 13. Well I doubt all of them have found there way back by faxing/emailing ffr a signed out COPPA form. Well I think that FFR should make one and put it up somewhere around the sight, like in FAQ for age limit, I know people who are under the age of 13 who post smartly on the forums, and I know that thats not the problem, so I think that would come in handy.

COPPA= Child Online Privacy Protection Act.

I had a few ideas. And found one. This may work. Look it over.

Parents/Guardians,

Waiver COPPA Text for Minors
I authorize my daughter/son, _________________________, to participate on the web site FlashFlashRevolution; Forums. I am agreeing to the Terms of Use (found at for her/him, since s/he is underage. I will be held liable for any actions that s/he takes on the web site.

S/__________________________________
(Parent/Guardian Name) site.

The user name being used is ____________________
Thank you.

I'm just a little confused. So if a child under 13 get this COPPA waiver then completely flames the forums and does the worst of things and all the jazz, how do you get the parents liable for it?

**TheDrizzle2010** · 08-5-2007, 06:06 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

Exactly. I, myself, have been guessed at many ages over the internet, most of which are over 18. How old am I? 15. It just all comes down to maturity.

Edit: My post was supposed to go after the other guy's!

**midnghtraver** · 08-5-2007, 10:12 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

Well I'm 11 and you really cant tell that from the way I post.

**rel89** · 08-5-2007, 10:14 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

I agree with xception.

**devonin** · 08-5-2007, 10:15 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

I'm actually not entirely sure that FFR -needs- to be COPPA compliant.

COPPA does not include any nonprofit entity that would otherwise be exempt from coverage under section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 45).

I'm unsure the extent to which soliciting donations counts as being a for-profit enterprise, but unless Synth is paying taxes as a corporation for any donations he intakes on the site, he may not actually qualify to be COPPA compliant at all.

**midnghtraver** · 08-5-2007, 10:19 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

If the parents don't sign it because they feel the same way about being UUA then its the parents decision, the kids wouldn't be able to fake the COPPA that easily.

**devonin** · 08-5-2007, 10:25 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

If it is only a signed sheet of paper, it is incredibly easy to fake. you can get faxes sent for cheap at most any convenience store.

This is why many for-profit internet companies (at whom COPPA is aimed) only allow registrations and donations via credit card, because that implies parental consent by definition.

**midnghtraver** · 08-5-2007, 10:29 PM

Re: FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

Originally posted by devonin

If it is only a signed sheet of paper, it is incredibly easy to fake. you can get faxes sent for cheap at most any convenience store.

This is why many for-profit internet companies (at whom COPPA is aimed) only allow registrations and donations via credit card, because that implies parental consent by definition.

You speak truths.

FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

FFR legalized COPPA signout sheet.

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