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  • damanwithdaskillz
    Banned
    • Jul 2006
    • 1065

    #1

    questions about classical songs, and V1

    hello everybody, I've been away from FFR for a while and seemed to miss out on an awsome chance for a subscription, oh well, lately I've been playing piano again with my Mom, and I can play Hungarian Dance #5 flawlessly and my Mom who has been playing piano for 47 years is excellent at it, and can play rustles of sprin (one of the hardest yet most beautiful songs I've seen her play) all the Hungarian dances, and the complete Vivaldies four seasons, so I was wondering if I could record her playing them and see if we could put them on FFR, because I think that would be awsome, she plays some of these songs much better than the other people I hear play in .mp3's off of the internet, trust me, and when is V1 coming out? If it doesn't come out soon I will just have to learn how to play Winter on my piano, oh well,

    P.S.

    I taught myself Hungarian Dance #5 with the original real notes in front of me, and god did FFR help me with it, the real song is really fast and has a lot of jacks and stream in the notes, and on piano, an old piano, that's really hard to do, especially jacks, two D's, then two C's, then and E, then back to B, and all of them are 16th and 32nd notes, thank you FFR!
  • damanwithdaskillz
    Banned
    • Jul 2006
    • 1065

    #2
    Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

    I just listened to V1, and it's not vivaldi, definitly not winter from the four seasons, I thought it was the one in Classical Insanity, which is winter, if that's not V1 can I play it for FFR?

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    • soulofcerberus
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2006
      • 367

      #3
      Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

      can you not double post?

      Tocatta and Fugue is hard on the piano. Overlapping.

      I play harp mostly, which kicks ass

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      • Tasselfoot
        Retired BOSS
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2003
        • 25185

        #4
        Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

        yes, you can record your mother playing classical pieces. just make sure they are of good quality. aka, not just your $20 tape recorded from Radio Shack. cause that'll sound like crap when you upload it and turn it to an mp3.

        i'm sure Reach and Sprite would have suggestions as to what songs would be good for FFR, as both are expert pianists. and I know Reach is looking for more live recorded classical files to step for FFR.
        RIP

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        • Engler
          FFR Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 2340

          #5
          Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

          Originally posted by soulofcerberus
          can you not double post?

          Tocatta and Fugue is hard on the piano. Overlapping.

          I play harp mostly, which kicks ass
          You're really cool (no sarcasm intended). I thought the harp was a dead instrument.

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          • soulofcerberus
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2006
            • 367

            #6
            Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

            You thought wrong, hella expensive instrument, but not dead.

            It's hard, time consuming, and it hurts, but its still cool.

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            • Ground_Breaker
              FFR Veteran
              • Jun 2007
              • 789

              #7
              Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

              Wow, where do you learn how to play the harp?
              fgsfds

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              • damanwithdaskillz
                Banned
                • Jul 2006
                • 1065

                #8
                Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                Originally posted by Tasselfoot
                yes, you can record your mother playing classical pieces. just make sure they are of good quality. aka, not just your $20 tape recorded from Radio Shack. cause that'll sound like crap when you upload it and turn it to an mp3.

                i'm sure Reach and Sprite would have suggestions as to what songs would be good for FFR, as both are expert pianists. and I know Reach is looking for more live recorded classical files to step for FFR.
                sounds good, could you contact them maybe? A lot of people don't like me so I'm not gonna go personally, just ask them what sons we may need and my Mom probably has them, she has a closet full of piano note sheets from all the classical composers, only thing she can't play are List and some Chopin, because they all mostly consist of 32nd notes which span over an octave and 2, and Mom can only hit an octave and 1, but I might be able too, I can reach an octave and 3

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                • damanwithdaskillz
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 1065

                  #9
                  Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                  Originally posted by soulofcerberus
                  You thought wrong, hella expensive instrument, but not dead.

                  It's hard, time consuming, and it hurts, but its still cool.
                  I once played the harp, a beautiful instrument, far from dead, there's at least 1 in every major orchestra, it's really hard to play

                  but a lot of people are belitteling piano as easy to play, you just have to hit a key and you get the right note, and unlike strings, brass, and wind sections, which many think are much harder because not only to you have to hold the right string or buttons when there are so many, but you have to hit all of them while blowing or sliding across the right string at the right time is much harder than hitting a bunch of notes, that's true for the easy songs, but if you tried to play Grand Gallop Chromatique on piano, it would be like AAAing it on FFR except you have ot move your hands all over the piano, which has a lot more notes than string or wind instruments, where you barely move your hands at all, I've played violin, cello, flute, and piano and the easier songs are hardest on the cello, medium songs are hardest on the flute, but advanced crazy classical is harder on the piano, IMO
                  Last edited by damanwithdaskillz; 06-12-2007, 06:32 PM.

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                  • soulofcerberus
                    FFR Player
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 367

                    #10
                    Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                    Originally posted by damanwithdaskillz
                    I once played the harp, a beautiful instrument, far from dead, there's at least 1 in every major orchestra, it's really hard to play
                    thats kinda like... i flew in a plane once, im a professional pilot

                    playing it and playing it are totally different haha

                    but yea insanely hard to play

                    <edit> nope, hardest songs are on harp, have to move your foot for EVERY accidental, not to mention plucking takes more effort than hitting a key
                    Last edited by soulofcerberus; 06-12-2007, 06:40 PM.

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                    • damanwithdaskillz
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1065

                      #11
                      Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                      Originally posted by soulofcerberus
                      thats kinda like... i flew in a plane once, im a professional pilot

                      playing it and playing it are totally different haha

                      but yea insanely hard to play

                      <edit> nope, hardest songs are on harp, have to move your foot for EVERY accidental, not to mention plucking takes more effort than hitting a key
                      One thing I beg to differ with, plucking a string you can do repeatedly without as much effort as actually lifting your finger up and slaming it back down 10 times in a row on a 32nd note, it's like getting all perfects on the crowd pleaser jacks, I bet if Chopin or Franz list were playing FFR, they could AAA crowdpleaser, you should see some of their songs, it's freakin' insane!

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                      • fido123
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4245

                        #12
                        Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                        Harp is much harder than piano. Piano is really easy to play and that's why they have such challanging songs for it. Harp really does take more skill than the piano with knowing where all strings are and on top of that you have to move your fingers in and out of the gaps without hitting the other strings which makes speed a really big issue with the harp.

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                        • soulofcerberus
                          FFR Player
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 367

                          #13
                          Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                          Originally posted by fido123
                          Harp is much harder than piano. Piano is really easy to play and that's why they have such challanging songs for it. Harp really does take more skill than the piano with knowing where all strings are and on top of that you have to move your fingers in and out of the gaps without hitting the other strings which makes speed a really big issue with the harp.
                          Pretty much exactly. Harps can't play repeated 32 notes at that speed. Believe it or not, you can hit a key almost twice as fast, if not three times faster than plucking a string, besides, when you stop a string too fast and do it the wrong way, it buzzes, which is almost as bad as hitting a wrong string accidentally.

                          You can have blind pianists, but not blind harpists. Theres no points of reference on the harp because you have 33-47 strings nearly the same distance apart, while on the piano you have raised black keys to help you know where you are.

                          Also harpists usually play their best wherever they practice, because whenever you move your harp somewhere different, your whole field of view changes. Piano you have the keyboard, always the keyboard. Harp you have all your strings, and whatever is behind those strings, so when you're looking at something different than usual, it can throw you off.

                          We also don't use our pinkies.

                          </defending harp>

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                          • dore
                            caveman pornstar
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 6317

                            #14
                            Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                            If you get a good recording of anything I'll take a look at stepping it.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                            • fido123
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 4245

                              #15
                              Re: questions about classical songs, and V1

                              Originally posted by soulofcerberus
                              Pretty much exactly. Harps can't play repeated 32 notes at that speed. Believe it or not, you can hit a key almost twice as fast, if not three times faster than plucking a string, besides, when you stop a string too fast and do it the wrong way, it buzzes, which is almost as bad as hitting a wrong string accidentally.

                              You can have blind pianists, but not blind harpists. Theres no points of reference on the harp because you have 33-47 strings nearly the same distance apart, while on the piano you have raised black keys to help you know where you are.

                              Also harpists usually play their best wherever they practice, because whenever you move your harp somewhere different, your whole field of view changes. Piano you have the keyboard, always the keyboard. Harp you have all your strings, and whatever is behind those strings, so when you're looking at something different than usual, it can throw you off.

                              We also don't use our pinkies.

                              </defending harp>

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