How do you find the right BPM for a song?

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  • Night_Fairy
    FFR Player
    • May 2007
    • 3

    #1

    How do you find the right BPM for a song?

    I'm new to all of this and I tried making a simfile and it's really off beat. Some one please help me.
  • Shashmakito
    FFR Player
    • Jul 2006
    • 432

    #2
    Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

    Google it.

    'song' bpm
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    • dAnceguy117
      new hand moves = dab
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Dec 2002
      • 10097

      #3
      Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

      mixmeister bpm analyzer will give you a solid rough estimate

      after that, just use f7/f8 to make any necessary slight adjustments

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      • Night_Fairy
        FFR Player
        • May 2007
        • 3

        #4
        Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

        Thank you. ^^

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        • Vidik
          FFR Player
          • Feb 2007
          • 144

          #5
          Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

          MixMeisterLar Doesn't tell good BPMs. It fractions the REAL BPM!
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          • jugglinguy
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            • Dec 2006
            • 4319

            #6
            Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

            Originally posted by Vidik
            MixMeisterLar Doesn't tell good BPMs. It fractions the REAL BPM!
            It's called MixMeister BPM Analyzer. You're confusing it with MixMasterLar
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            • Relambrien
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2006
              • 1644

              #7
              Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

              MixMeister sometimes gives a BPM that is half of what you'd expect, and you can double it if you like without affecting the sync of the song. It's just that sixteenths become eighths, eighths become quarters, etc.

              You could also try a program called BPM ProScan, and compare the results it and MixMeister give.

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              • Ramengan
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2006
                • 772

                #8
                Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                Don't forget about the gap. That's important for syncing too. The stickies explain how to find that.
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                • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
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                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • May 2004
                  • 5184

                  #9
                  Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                  I use Mixmeister and Atomix-Mp3. I usually have to use both because neither is always right. I've had it where Mixmeister made what should be 16ths -> 12ths or something weird like that somehow. Just gotta work with it until you find the right one, its almost a trial and error kind of thing.

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                  • macgravel
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                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • May 2004
                    • 2405

                    #10
                    Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                    Originally posted by PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
                    I've had it where Mixmeister made what should be 16ths -> 12ths or something weird like that somehow. Just gotta work with it until you find the right one
                    If that's the case, then do something like this:

                    Say the BPM is 160, and it's making 16ths into 12ths. What I do is divide the 160 BPM. You now have 40 BPM. You can either take and times the 40 BPM by 3, or 5 (So it will equal 120 BPM or 200 BPM). Either way will turn the 12ths into 16ths. (It's what I do, and it works for me)

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                    • PsYcHoZeRoSk8eR
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                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • May 2004
                      • 5184

                      #11
                      Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                      Originally posted by macgravel
                      If that's the case, then do something like this:

                      Say the BPM is 160, and it's making 16ths into 12ths. What I do is divide the 160 BPM. You now have 40 BPM. You can either take and times the 40 BPM by 3, or 5 (So it will equal 120 BPM or 200 BPM). Either way will turn the 12ths into 16ths. (It's what I do, and it works for me)
                      I did do that, on my most recent case of something like that happening. Worked pretty well too, but thats only if you can't work with 12ths or what have you.

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                      • dore
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                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 6317

                        #12
                        Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                        Here's how I do it. I use a stopwatch to time a section of the song (the longer, the better), then I use this formula:
                        (number of beats timed)*(60)/(time on stopwatch)

                        This will get you pretty close, but you have to account for human error and try a few more times. Also, the longer the passage you time, the more negligible human error becomes.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                        • dAnceguy117
                          new hand moves = dab
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 10097

                          #13
                          Re: How do you find the right BPM for a song?

                          it's whatever works really, you just need to be able to fine-tune whatever you come up with

                          same goes with the gap, autosync will make things close enough, anything more accurate is irrelevant anyway because of the gap differentials between computers

                          if you come up with a bpm from mixmeister or whatever bpm finder that gives you the bpm in 3/4 time or any incorrect time signature, you can really just multiply it by 5/4 or 4/3 or whatever you need in order to make the time signature correct

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