Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

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  • rade0110
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2004
    • 1253

    #1

    Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

    So I was had this idea to have peoples' #1 ranked songs re-ordered. Who thinks it would be a good idea to have the system set-up so it would be ordered by rank, as well as by song difficulty then by point value? So if these were the songs you had:

    1 3 Switchback (FFR Edit) 632,400
    1 5 That Tethnic Vibe 657,200
    1 5 Burnout 697,500
    1 3 RainDrops 720,750
    1 6 Parachute (stupid clowns) 726,950
    1 5 I Can See The Light 744,000
    1 5 Libertine 745,550
    1 5 Save Me 771,900
    1 6 Fett's Vette 782,750
    1 5 Breaking the Common 878,850
    1 5 One Last Battle 891,250

    It would look like this instead:

    1 6 Fett's Vette 782,750
    1 6 Parachute (stupid clowns) 726,950
    1 5 One Last Battle 891,250
    1 5 Breaking the Common 878,850
    1 5 Save Me 771,900
    1 5 Libertine 745,550
    1 5 Burnout 697,500
    1 5 That Tethnic Vibe 657,200
    1 3 RainDrops 720,750
    1 3 Switchback (FFR Edit) 632,400

    I know it's not exactly what some people were looking for, but this is definitely a doable upgrade... what's the verdict?
    Originally posted by Synthlight
    Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

    Cheers,

    Synthlight
  • Tasselfoot
    Retired BOSS
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2003
    • 25185

    #2
    Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

    it would appear that messing with that is not as simple as you'd think...

    my understanding is that the profile top10 display pulls straight from your levelrank.php. the top 10 scores on your rank. and your levelrank.php displays your #1 scores from lowest to highest score... which makes sense.

    so, to change it in profile would require it to examine ALL #1 scores you've gotten, then sort them based on whatever other thing you want to sort them by (difficulty, highest score, whatever).

    so you've gone from 1 simple query to at least 2, if not 3, queries. and from my understanding... the top10 display already causes HUGE server load with just the 1 query. making it 2 or even 3 would put enormous strain on the servers. the way to compensate this would be to change it from a 1 hour cache to a 24 hour cache... which would go from 24 queries to about 2-3 every day. but then people would complain that their new scores weren't showing up in their top10 (which they already do, even on the hourly cache).

    get my drift?
    RIP

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    • rade0110
      FFR Player
      • Dec 2004
      • 1253

      #3
      Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

      Right I understand. But I also know you can put new criteria onto an existing query. So if the query is set-up to have levelrank ordered by rank and point value; you could add 1 new task to it's ordering (adding the order by song difficulty). Thereby keeping the 1 query you have, just rearranging it. It might cause some additional strain, but I can't see it causing much, since you still only have the one query. Maybe I'm just being naive, but it doesn't seem like you would need to create any new queries for this.
      Originally posted by Synthlight
      Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

      Cheers,

      Synthlight

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      • xinpig
        FFR Player
        • Apr 2006
        • 1072

        #4
        Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

        umm.. why not put the AAA's on their own score rank piece and leave the others to show up?



        PSEUDO SKILL TOKENS! FC'd Blooddrunk with AVMISSING!

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        • rade0110
          FFR Player
          • Dec 2004
          • 1253

          #5
          Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

          Originally posted by xinpig
          umm.. why not put the AAA's on their own score rank piece and leave the others to show up?
          Because that WOULD require a new query to be made which would cause a lot of added stress to the server. My idea is basically altering an already existing query which wouldn't (I believe) cause a great deal more stress then there already is.
          Originally posted by Synthlight
          Everyone uses quotes from Synthlight in their signature. So I'm making this one up to fit in.

          Cheers,

          Synthlight

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          • Tasselfoot
            Retired BOSS
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Jul 2003
            • 25185

            #6
            Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

            i'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way rade. it would require a minimum of 2x the processes. aka, the server would have to send twice as much data, work twice as hard. yada yada. if not 3x.
            RIP

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            • Engler
              FFR Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 2340

              #7
              Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

              Maybe one day there will be ultra excellent servers that will be able to support this with ease, but for now I don't think it's worth it. If you really need to brag about your AAAs, you can post your levelrank in the levelrank thread.

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              • brothaice
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Dec 2005
                • 2940

                #8
                Re: Idea to help the whole #1 rank thing

                This has been suggested before, wont happen.

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