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  • chaoticblue
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2007
    • 16
    #1

    Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

    Well, I'm kinda new here and I just thought I'd bring the topic up, if it hasn't been already. Well, we all know that somewhere out there someone is having sex or dating a cousin. I thought it was really weird and wrong at first, but a close friend of mine just kind of opened up to be one night *he was drunk as hell and probably doesn't remember*, and told me that his parents were in fact cousins. He went on to talk about how depressed he was about this and how ashamed he was, afraid that other people would find out or some such thing.

    Well here's my question really, what is wrong with cousins doing that kinda thing anyways? I mean, sure it seems kinda weird at first, but when I really thought about it I kind of realized that if two people really really love eachother then why not? I did have this doubt in me before that cousins who have kids together produce retarded or deformed offspring, but my friend is pretty above average if you ask me. Then there's the whole 'only hicks and poor degenerates do it' myth, and well his parents are doctors. I think his father's a surgeon and his mother's a pediatrist?

    Which leads me to my next question! Do cousins who have sex with eachother and have a baby really have an extremely huge risk of getting a mentally retarded or physically deformed baby?

    I don't really understand the big taboo that surrounds this issue and why people look down upon and sometimes actively harrass people who fell in love and started a relationship. If anyone wants to give their thoughts or any info on this it would be much appreciated.

    Sorry if this seems really rushed or incoherrent, I'm studying for a history exam right now and I'm really hoping I won't fail.
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    • midnghtraver
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      • Jan 2006
      • 2064
      #2
      Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

      yes, creepy, just no.

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        • chaoticblue
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2007
          • 16
          #3
          Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

          I really don't understand, why not though?

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            • acknerr
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2006
              • 551
              #4
              Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

              The thing that's wrong with it is that they are RELATED TO EACH OTHER. I don't have a problem if people are in love and gay or something like that, but two people related by blood or other family ties is just weird. If they should ban any kind of marrige, it should be this kind.

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                • chaoticblue
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 16
                  #5
                  Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                  I still don't understand why they shuold ban it though, I mean sure they are related, but if they still fall in love I really don't see why not.

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                    • acknerr
                      FFR Player
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 551
                      #6
                      Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                      Yeah, I'm all for acceptence of people, but family members should not be in relationships of that kind.

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                        • chaoticblue
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 16
                          #7
                          Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                          Why? What reason is there other than the creepiness factor (which I kind of agree on)?

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                            • FaintScent
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 43
                              #8
                              Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                              Yeah my friend is muslim and she says in her family it's perfectly normal marrying a cousin.. sure there is a percentage that the baby will end up retarded.... but i guess it's love?
                              But most of them were arranged marriages.
                              Even people with wealth married their cousins suchs as the egyptians (who can also mmarry their siblings o.o) Some marry for the sake of keeping their wealth instead of bring someone else in with no money. And even in Englan Monarchy there were many marriages between cousins... thets why they kinda ended up with hereditory (sp? I'm not sure if this was the right word...) diseases ( diseases caused by marrying a relative.)
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                                • acknerr
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                                  • Nov 2006
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                                  #9
                                  Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                  You're not supposed to be in relationships with family members. There is a reason most people get into relationship with other people. If people find out about your friend, they probably will tear him a new one. I wouldn't, but it's just wrong. The creepiness is the main thing, but it just makes sense when you think more about it. Most people would agree. I guess it could be different in some cultures, but it's weird in ours.

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                                    • AriesMalvis
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                                      • Dec 2006
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                                      #10
                                      Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                      that's like on drawn together when captain hero and his sister had a baby 0_o

                                      other than the creepiness factor there are more medical problems that arise
                                      most can be demonstrated in the older royal families that wanted to keep the royal bloodline in the family so they were all inbred and such

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                                        • FaintScent
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                                          • Feb 2007
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                                          Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                          Some people also find out that that they are cousins... eventhough they are already married.
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                                            • acknerr
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                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 551
                                              #12
                                              Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                              Originally posted by FaintScent
                                              Some people also find out that that they are cousins... eventhough they are already married.
                                              Seems like that would be awkward. Even so, medical and moral issues are the main factors at play here.

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                                                • jamuko
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                                                  • Jan 2004
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                                                  Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                                  This issue seems kinda complex if you ask me. You can't really say "that's gross because they're related!" because we're all related way deep down. That sounds like a stretch, but... cousins are already better than siblings, but better than cousins would be second-cousins... and so on. How do you know where to draw the line on what is acceptable? Once you get down to your fourth-cousin it's suddenly alright?

                                                  The main problem seems to be how you knew the person growing up. If the two were close like siblings, it's weird to us. But what if the two cousins were separated early on and never knew each other until meeting by chance years later, and then falling in love? How are we to say it's wrong, when it lacks that "gross" element of the familial relationship?

                                                  I agree that my first instinct is that it's wrong, but I think it's worth inspecting our reasons for such instincts.
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                                                    • chaoticblue
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                                                      • Mar 2007
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                                                      Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                                      Originally posted by AriesMalvis
                                                      that's like on drawn together when captain hero and his sister had a baby 0_o

                                                      other than the creepiness factor there are more medical problems that arise
                                                      most can be demonstrated in the older royal families that wanted to keep the royal bloodline in the family so they were all inbred and such
                                                      Well, I think they got the disease (Hemophilia) because they were reaaally inbred throughout the generations, not just a one time thing with a cousin. But now that I think about, if it truly is the medical problem of having an abnormal child, then how come hemophiliac women are allowed to get married and have children even though there is a 50% chance of passing it on to their child? Don't children born from cousins only have around a 2.5-4% additional chance of abnormalities than do 'normal' children?

                                                      There are many more diseases that seem to have a larger chance of producing an unhealthy child than first cousins getting it on, so why is it legal for people with those diseases to have children and get married, but not first cousins, second, or so on?
                                                      Last edited by chaoticblue; 04-18-2007, 11:09 PM.

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                                                        • devonin
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                                                          • Apr 2004
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                                                          Re: Romantic relationships with cousins, creepy?

                                                          Well, as I recall, isn't the american phrase "Kissing cousins" referring to second cousins, on the grounds that at that point, you are genetically distant enough to have kids with basically no risk of genetic issues?

                                                          On the Six Degrees of Seperation front, you can connect yourself, by blood, to almost anybody to some extent, so theoretically there is a line whereupon it just shouldn't matter. My step-mother's parents found out after having been married, that they were something like third cousins once removed. I don't see such a distant link making any difference, especially if discovered after the fact.

                                                          That said, ew, gross, ick. Not something I am personally a proponant of, but if it is determined that biologically you're far enough apart that there's no particular risk to having kids, far be it from me to try and stop you.

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