Mother of god?

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if jesus is god. then virgin mary is the mother of god.

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dude i tried one of these god issues last night, look at the thread "what IF god was one of us?"... they get a bit touchy on this subject, obviously they assume were trying to start controversy instead of GENUINELY trying to have an intelligent conversation... some ppl can just be petty... supremely petty... i can just guess that this thread will be closed in a lil while, with some degrading comment from a mod telling you that this isnt suitable material for a post... but u know what, at least we tried...

but to the question, before this is closed, im not exactly sure about it... im an athiest... i dont believe in any god or higher power... but it does get you to thinking about the validity and history of it all... if god is the supreme being, the first... the creator of all life and the cosmos, etc... how could there be a mother of god... certainly she would reign even more supreme right??? so in fact SHE would be god... its a good question flash... whats your point on it???

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I think most theists would say god has been and always will be so there is no need for a 'mother.' A mother in this case is the equivalent to a creator...

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Here's my take on it, some religions believe that there is infact a heavenly mother with a heavenly father (God) and that she is just not discussed because it would only allow us to use her name in vain like society does so often with God's name. Also, i dont know what to believe on the matter, but it could be possible for God to have parents if you believe in the Mormon plan of salvation and an infinite past. So in my opinion, yes, there could be a mother of God but it is a touchy subject because everyones belief on the matter comes from their own assumptions and connections since there is no book that i know that speaks of it (nothing like the bible or the book of mormon is what i meant).

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hmmm... interesting take on the mormon POV... and i do believe to this day people do take both god and the MOG name in vain... ive heard a couple times the phrase "oh heavenly mother of god........." and such... but in fact, if what i said before might be true, and the MOG is the ultimate, she would in fact be god and jesus would in fact BE the god that has been revered... i dunno if that makes any sense to the rest of you, but in my mind it kinda does... idk... this is a thinker lol... props flash!!!

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I was raised a Catholic, and do still believe in a sort of high power, but cannot justifiably claim to be a Catholic. Still, I'll do my best to explain my take on this.

As I was taught it, Jesus is a part of the Trinity -- that is, God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit (I'm not sure if this can be 'God the Holy Spirit.' I've never heard it as such.). Catholicism simply labels these into God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Supposedly three sections of the same being, each with different purposes. From what I can figure (Prayers, Biblical teachings, etc.), the Father -- God -- is the creator, residing in Heaven and supposedly answering all our prayers in some way or other. The Holy Spirit is on earth at this moment, and will only return to Heaven at the end of time.

Christ, the Son, is still God. Catholicism teaches that he was also human. 100% God, and 100% human. Strange, illogical, but that's the way the teaching is, so we'll assume that to be true for the purposes here. Obviously, if Christ is going to be walking around on earth, he would need a physical body, yes? Therefore, when we apply the term "Mother of God" to Mary, we mean that Mary gave birth to Christ's physical being. The spirit of Christ had already existed, as a part of God -- that part was not "born."

Make sense, kind of?

Also, on the terms of an actual "mother of God" (That is, one God, one ultimate deity, born by another being) there are a number of philosophical arguments regarding God. One of the most common concerns the necessity of a "first mover." It argues that the universe operates on consistent causes and effects, sort of like dominoes. However, if we look back to this first mover -- God -- who started God? The first mover must have had someone move him, right?

Most arguments for the existence of God hit a roadblock when it comes to the "beginning of time." It's simply because we cannot comprehend what we do not experience -- No human has ever experienced anything outside of existence. If we knew what things were like before the "beginning," we might have a clearer view or some idea on which to define our "first mover."

I know this post went off on a lot of tangents, but I tried to encompass everything within the original post, given that it did leave open a lot of loose ends.

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Neonatrias,

Nice, breaking out St. Thomas Aquinas on the people, lol. The Five proofs are interesting to say the least. They argue that everything has rhyme and reason and did have a begining, atleast our physical universe. Nothing moves without a mover, nothing creates itself without a creator, contingent beings and necessary being must coexist for survival, the degrees of perfection, and lastly, the laws of nature, physics, everything work on such a complex level, there had to be an intelligent designer.

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And here I thought this was a thread about the song 'Mother of God'.
Good song.

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Actually, it's because your thread was retarded and was not critical thinking.

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Does anyone think Jesus is God?

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Easter, quit being a baby and keep your crying out of here.

That's like saying "Is anyone Christian?" What was the point of that question?

Neon got most of what needed to be said. Jesus is God, Mary was chosen by God to give birth to Jesus, and then did. As such, Mary is the virgin mother of God.

Now, if you are talking about the mother of the triune God, well, that just falls into the realm of complete speculation, kind of like, "If red weren't red, what color would it be?" That's not really a topic for discussion...

--Guido

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Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God, not that he is God himself.

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god needs a mother, and gods mothers mother needs a mother and so on lol

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You clearly don't know much about Christianity, then.

Yeah, a regular human John Doe was born of a virgin and performed many miracles such as curing blindness and leprosy, creating food, and raising people from the dead.

Totally not God.

--Guido