ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

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  • Godhand
    FFR Player
    • May 2006
    • 42
    #1

    ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

    for some reason, whenever i put a song that is about 190 - 200bpm on x3 (equaling 600bpm) on ITG i can read and react to it just fine. but on DDR whenever i put max 300 on x2 (equaling 600bpm) i look and the screen and say WTF man. to me it seems that ITG and DDR have a different way of calculating bpm. / or am i just wierd and need to stop playing the game?
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    • dancer2extreme4
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2005
      • 23
      #2
      Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

      Beats per minute is just a universal way of telling how fast the song is, the songs bpm will always be the same. Ex: max300 is 300 on ddr, itg, if they decided to make a PIU whatever it would always be 300. The scroll rate on the screen of both games is clearly different if your using like ps2, but if you play on a ITG dedicab with the screen considerably bigger than a ddr machine its more or less the same.

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        • Godhand
          FFR Player
          • May 2006
          • 42
          #3
          Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

          Originally posted by dancer2extreme4
          Beats per minute is just a universal way of telling how fast the song is, the songs bpm will always be the same. Ex: max300 is 300 on ddr, itg, if they decided to make a PIU whatever it would always be 300. The scroll rate on the screen of both games is clearly different if your using like ps2, but if you play on a ITG dedicab with the screen considerably bigger than a ddr machine its more or less the same.
          so if i went to the arcade and played disconnected at x3 (equaling 600bpm) the scroll rate would be faster than if i was playing disconnected x3 on ps2 at my house?

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            • dore
              caveman pornstar
              FFR Simfile Author
              FFR Music Producer
              • Feb 2006
              • 6317
              #4
              Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

              I've noticed this before. On DDR I can only read up to about 500 or so but on ITG I can read up to 550. I don't know if there's any technical reason or if it's just that ITG noteskins are easier to read.
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                • plasmix
                  FFR Player
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3639
                  #5
                  Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                  DDR's lifebar is at the bottom, blocking a portion of the scroll area. ITG uses more scroll area, and can be faster read.

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                    • Starshot
                      /DJS\
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 1794
                      #6
                      Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                      The refresh rate on ITG Machines are higher then DDR machines.

                      I'm surprised I'm the only one who knows this.

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                        • Godhand
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2006
                          • 42
                          #7
                          Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                          Originally posted by plasmix
                          DDR's lifebar is at the bottom, blocking a portion of the scroll area. ITG uses more scroll area, and can be faster read.
                          i think you hit the nail on the head. wow so simple but yet i never even thought about that

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                            • dancer2extreme4
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 23
                              #8
                              Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                              Originally posted by Godhand
                              so if i went to the arcade and played disconnected at x3 (equaling 600bpm) the scroll rate would be faster than if i was playing disconnected x3 on ps2 at my house?
                              I'm not sure if the actual scroll rate is faster but it would definately seem faster since the screen is way bigger.

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                                • rel89
                                  FFR Player
                                  • May 2006
                                  • 2046
                                  #9
                                  Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                                  Why would you want to do a song like Max 300 on 2x speed anyways?
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                                    • dancer2extreme4
                                      FFR Player
                                      • Sep 2005
                                      • 23
                                      #10
                                      Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                                      lots of people do it on 2x, its spread out more and you can PA better if you know the song real well.

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                                        • rel89
                                          FFR Player
                                          • May 2006
                                          • 2046
                                          #11
                                          Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                                          You can PA greatly if your timing is good. It doesn't matter how far apart the arrows are from eachother.
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                                            • Godhand
                                              FFR Player
                                              • May 2006
                                              • 42
                                              #12
                                              Re: ITG and DDR same bpm but different speed

                                              Originally posted by rel89
                                              You can PA greatly if your timing is good. It doesn't matter how far apart the arrows are from eachother.
                                              um thats a big negative, spacing the arrows out make it easier for ME to react and hit them on time better than doing it on slower speed. max 300 on x2 is a hell naw though cause aint no way i can read or remotely be on timing with the bs

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