HOLY SHIT I FINALLY FOUND A NEW FOOLPROOF GAP SYSTEM

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  • Arch0wl
    Banned
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Dec 2002
    • 6344

    #1

    HOLY SHIT I FINALLY FOUND A NEW FOOLPROOF GAP SYSTEM

    This works off the NOTES

    I can't really get down to details cause it's kind of complicated

    But put simplistic

    32nd note = 32 milliseconds

    So if you have orange arrow syndrome, find the second of the first note (it says current second in the bar on the top right on SM) and take that and add/subtract 32 to/from it

    This will not find the EXACTS. Finding the exacts is a bit harder and I don't want to get into it.

    But thanks to this I got classic 8 100% synced now, now I can finally begin working on it again.
  • thebox
    FFR Player
    • Oct 2003
    • 163

    #2
    Thats pretty damn technical, you lost me towards the end with the exacts and such

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    • Freak83
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2003
      • 3281

      #3
      I don't even understand the purpose of GAP's... Care to explain them?

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      • Arch0wl
        Banned
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2002
        • 6344

        #4
        If you don't understand the purpose then I hope you never make a simfile for anything outside of FFR. It determines if the song is onbeat/sync or not. It determines if the song has yellow/orange arrow syndrome or not.

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        • altairian
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2003
          • 2055

          #5
          uhhh...that explanation doesn't make much sense. The length of time between notes is determined by BPM. And most people are smart enough to sync a red/blue note with their gap rather than throwing in some arbitrary gap and then tossing 32nds in to make the arrows onbeat.
          Reach: there was this bee. i hate bee\'s...i tryed to kill it, but then it didn\'t die and it started making weird noises so i was like oh (#$% hes gonna sting me. i started running but i triped over some rock and rolled down a hill into the river.

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          • Arch0wl
            Banned
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Dec 2002
            • 6344

            #6
            length of time between notes is determined by BPM.
            Yes, but gap works by milliseconds, and 32nd notes are 32 milliseconds nomatter what.

            And most people are smart enough to sync a red/blue note with their gap
            .......................

            That's the idea, genius.

            This new gap system helps me sync files perfectly now.

            Guys, expect FOTBB ver2 soon. I also found a cool edit bpm plugin that helps me with some of the harder to find bpms.

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            • plasmix
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2003
              • 3639

              #7
              And if you don't know what Yellow/Orange Arrow Syndrome is, look at Moogy's Max300 Wave Mix.

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              • thebox
                FFR Player
                • Oct 2003
                • 163

                #8
                do one with the rock guitar verson, that one sounded cooler than the one on the piano

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                • Anticrombie0909
                  FFR Player
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4683

                  #9
                  Yeahhh...No idea what you're all talking about.

                  I should make a stepfile. Then I should remake it so it doesn't suck.

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                  • Synthlight
                    Administrator
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Administrator
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 3059

                    #10
                    Arch, I am going to have to disagree.. Here is the reason why, 32nd notes have nothing to do with time but are rather a slice of time based on the BPM of a song. Each note has no defined millisecond length therefore a 32nd note has no defined length either.

                    For those of you asking what gap is, think of it like this. Imagine 2 timelines. the top one is when the steps start and the bottom one is when the music starts. So normally they both start at 0. This is fine for some songs if you are not picky but there are a couple factors. 1) mp3 files have a really small gap in the front before the music starts and 2) some songs don't start their beat until a few seconds into the file. What you must do is tell that top timeline (the arrows) that the beat doesnt start until X milleseconds and then start the releasing/processing of the arrows (stepfile). This value is what we know as the gap value. Naturally 1000ms is 1 second. Use an audio editing program to look and see exactly how many seconds until the music or beat starts.

                    If a song needs gap and you don't enter it, you will see that the beat is shifted forward or backwards in the timeline or even worse. Not having the correct BPM or Gap usually makes for a disaster of colorful arrows across a not so accurate stepfile.

                    Cheers,

                    Synthlight

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                    • Freak83
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3281

                      #11
                      Interesting... thanks synth.. that helps... oh and Arch0wl... too late I've already made 4 that are uploaded on bemanistyle... my 3 newest ones uploaded here for ffr. So 7 stepfiles in total...

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                      • Reach
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 7471

                        #12
                        I also found a cool edit bpm plugin that helps me with some of the harder to find bpms.
                        eh??! i need it O.O i hateeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bpms. half the time i screw up the bpm by a fraction and it goes all offbeat.

                        and....gap is basically just to make the song start on the first beat of the dwi file so you can keep it perfectly onbeat. no?

                        fotbb v2 lol sweet

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                        • dancingmaniac3
                          FFR Player
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 1873

                          #13
                          i have no damn idea what ur talking about. ill just smile and nod. actually i sorta know, since i play in a professional orchestra n all, so i understand the 32nd note/rhythm thingy. so yeah, for anything else ill just smile and nod.

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                          • Brainmaster07
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2891

                            #14
                            A BPM detector? Give meh! I'm sick of getting the bpm off by like .1 because I use winBPM and then having the entire stepfile off by like a quarter of a beat .

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                            • makaveli121212
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2003
                              • 3823

                              #15
                              you can get one from download.com...its BPM studio or something, it works well
                              Originally posted by VxDx
                              Stick it in her butt and pee.

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