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  • Wayward Vagabond
    Confirmed Heartbreaker
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jul 2012
    • 5866
    #1

    Alive/Dead Ambigram

    Did this at work last night. I like the way it came out I just need to redo it a bit and flesh it out. Any input would be cool
    Dead


    Alive
    Last edited by Wayward Vagabond; 02-3-2015, 10:23 AM.
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    • Xiz
      TWG Chaos
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Feb 2012
      • 3399
      #2
      Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

      This would make a great tattoo.

      EDIT: For some reason I envisioned this like on this guy:
      Last edited by Xiz; 02-3-2015, 10:59 AM.

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        • Silvuh
          quit
          FFR Simfile Author
          FFR Music Producer
          • Apr 2005
          • 938
          #3
          Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

          This is pretty neat, so I couldn't help but mess around with it a bit. I hope that's okay, eheh.

          1. The V in ALIVE has to be big to be the first letter of DEAD, which makes the A in ALIVE is small. To be larger, I figured it could be merged with the D.
          2. The E in ALIVE seems to be missing its top, so the curl could go out farther.
          3. The E / I in the middle is thin compared to the letters around it, so changing around the curls inside the L can help with that.
          4. There are many more small curls below DEAD than above, so it feels unbalanced (though that may be intentional, as if it's dripping blood one way and growing plants the other, which can work.)


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            • FF_rules
              FF Veteran
              • May 2006
              • 668
              #4
              Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

              Is it possible to flesh out defined edges in letters with white lines to highlight specific points so the letters are easier to distinguish from the background? I'm not an artist but I find it hard to read these things without knowing what I'm looking for to begin with. I feel like noticing it at a first glance would make it so much better.

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                • Wayward Vagabond
                  Confirmed Heartbreaker
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 5866
                  #5
                  Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                  Originally posted by Silvuh
                  This is pretty neat, so I couldn't help but mess around with it a bit. I hope that's okay, eheh.

                  1. The V in ALIVE has to be big to be the first letter of DEAD, which makes the A in ALIVE is small. To be larger, I figured it could be merged with the D.
                  2. The E in ALIVE seems to be missing its top, so the curl could go out farther.
                  3. The E / I in the middle is thin compared to the letters around it, so changing around the curls inside the L can help with that.
                  4. There are many more small curls below DEAD than above, so it feels unbalanced (though that may be intentional, as if it's dripping blood one way and growing plants the other, which can work.)


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                  Oh that's a neat interpretation. I'm going to redo it and work off of yours

                  Originally posted by FF_rules
                  Is it possible to flesh out defined edges in letters with white lines to highlight specific points so the letters are easier to distinguish from the background? I'm not an artist but I find it hard to read these things without knowing what I'm looking for to begin with. I feel like noticing it at a first glance would make it so much better.
                  Most ambigrams are like that. Its more to do with the fact that you're over stylizing so that you can work the words so it becomes another word upside down on backwards on word within a word. Its just the nature

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                    • Spenner
                      Forum User
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 2403
                      #6
                      Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                      I've always loved visual, non typographical imagery with this life/death ambiguity, but seeing the written form especially with organicness is really interesting. Obviously you could have perfectly clean lines but thats irrelevent really, you are establishing the idea--

                      If you are to make some sort of heirarchy it should be to the first letter, and establishing the direction of the reading for each word, but only using the first letter to "dip in" from. But Silvuh's no particular reading direction, having the content be embedded but not necessarly obvious, is a neat idea. Only problem with it is people not knowing it is Alive and Dead necessarily being there and seeing other words. Only reason why I suggest a contrast towards the first letters of each half of the ambigram. Interesting stuff, I might play with this concept.

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                        • Wayward Vagabond
                          Confirmed Heartbreaker
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 5866
                          #7
                          Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                          thanks spen!

                          here's a take two. fleshing it out a little more. making it more symmetrical so it looks more or less the same upside down and rightside up at first glance. distinguished the A in live more and combined it with the D like silvuh suggested

                          Alive


                          Dead
                          Last edited by Wayward Vagabond; 02-5-2015, 03:56 PM.

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                            • Wayward Vagabond
                              Confirmed Heartbreaker
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 5866
                              #8
                              Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                              ambrigrams are cool and really fun and challenging to make. ive been making them for a couple years now though this is my first attempt at doing two seperate words vs same word read both ways.

                              really would be cool to see what you come up with spen 8)

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                                • Kanzas
                                  Buh
                                  • Jul 2014
                                  • 1459
                                  #9
                                  Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                                  Much better. Good shit, my dude.




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                                    • Spenner
                                      Forum User
                                      • Nov 2006
                                      • 2403
                                      #10
                                      Re: Alive/Dead Ambigram

                                      I'll make it my doodle subject at work tomorrow ps nice, adding character weight where it should be really helps readability. Deff keep it in there.

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