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  • FoJaR
    The Worst
    • Nov 2005
    • 2816

    #1

    still wanna host this gameeeee

    Prisoner's Dilemma

    Prisoner's dilemma: each twilight, you will be randomly paired off and you must decide whether to betray or trust.

    If you both trust each other, you will both get minor powers.

    If you both betray each other you recieve no powers.

    If one person betrays and the other trusts, the betrayer recieves a major power, and the truster gets nothing.

    If there is an odd number, one person will be randomly left out, and there is a 50% chance that they will retain their previous power.

    Anyone talking about meta for upcoming dilemmas (discussion of past dilemmas is allowed) automatically alerts the guards, and is thrown in the hole for any upcoming days whose meta they address. If you offer up a strategy for all upcoming dilemmas, you are in the hole forever. Dont let the guards hear you planning.

    The hole is a bad place. When you are in the hole you may not post at all during that day phase, you lose any power you may have had, your vote moves to yourself (solitary can be depressing), and you do not participate in that day's dilemma.

    There are day powers and night powers. If you talk about a day power in thread during the day that it is active, you lose your power. Since night powers have already been used by the time the day starts, they are always fair game. If you say more than "i have a day power" in the thread, you risk losing your power. If you lose your power, i will notify you via PM.

    Prisoner's dilemma happens Twilight, powers come into effect immediately.

    Game has a twilight start.

    No talking outside of thread during day or twilight for anyone. Wolves and other roles who have permission may talk outside the thread during night phase.
    Last edited by FoJaR; 12-10-2013, 05:27 PM.
  • FoJaR
    The Worst
    • Nov 2005
    • 2816

    #2
    Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

    because this game is in thread only, i'm thinking 4 days per day phase, one day twilight, two day night phase.

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    • FoJaR
      The Worst
      • Nov 2005
      • 2816

      #3
      Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

      might make things longer to make things easier over the holidays, or we might just want to wait until after the holidays to start.

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      • FoJaR
        The Worst
        • Nov 2005
        • 2816

        #4
        Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

        assuming we even want to play this game

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6161

          #5
          Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

          So if I'm understanding this.

          This game is vanilla (As in default is just wolves and humans and nothing else), however there's rules in place in which in the twilight phase a power is given depending on I'm assuming a PM to you saying "trust or betray". I'm assuming also then that the powers then given stay with you until used either the day or night or another twilight maybe?

          Also, the meta thing, does that mean say if Day 2 happens, we can't talk about Day 1 happenings? Or is it just strictly from previous games?


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • FoJaR
            The Worst
            • Nov 2005
            • 2816

            #6
            Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

            Originally posted by Charu
            So if I'm understanding this.

            This game is vanilla (As in default is just wolves and humans and nothing else), however there's rules in place in which in the twilight phase a power is given depending on I'm assuming a PM to you saying "trust or betray". I'm assuming also then that the powers then given stay with you until used either the day or night or another twilight maybe?

            Also, the meta thing, does that mean say if Day 2 happens, we can't talk about Day 1 happenings? Or is it just strictly from previous games?
            yeah everyone is vanilla, before the twilight phase i'll mix up the names and send each person the name of their partner, and with no discussion they have to send back trust or betray.

            it goes twilight -> night -> day. if you get a night power, you will use it immediately, if you get a day power it will be active during the day, or you can activate it during the day.

            after the day phase, it's twilight again, where powers get distributed around again.

            the meta thing is basically you cant prepare for the future at all, so no strategies that revolve around how you trust or who you trust. the prisoners dilemma portion of the game is a personal choice thing that should not be manipulated by strategy. not even the wolves are allowed to talk during the twilight phase.

            you can talk as much as you want about past twilight phases, who people were paired with and whether they trusted them or not is bound to come out.

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            • FoJaR
              The Worst
              • Nov 2005
              • 2816

              #7
              Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

              the wolves will have the advantage of being able to talk about twilights during night phases, but for the first twilight phase they wont have talked yet, and even on subsequent nights they wont be able to talk until after they get their next partner and make the choice anyways.

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              • The Blue Blur
                FFR Player
                • Nov 2006
                • 147

                #8
                Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                So wolves should be a bit up in number from a normal vanilla/mountainous game, maybe 3:11?

                I seriously thought I understood this until your last posts. Specifically:

                Originally posted by FoJaR
                the wolves will have the advantage of being able to talk about twilights during night phases, but for the first twilight phase they wont have talked yet, and even on subsequent nights they wont be able to talk until after they get their next partner and make the choice anyways.
                Sooo...wolves can never talk?

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                • Vendetta21
                  Sectional Moderator
                  Sectional Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2745

                  #9
                  Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                  no.

                  host a C9++

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                  • FoJaR
                    The Worst
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2816

                    #10
                    Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                    wolves can talk during night phases only. they cant talk during twilight which is when prisoner's dilemma happens

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                    • FoJaR
                      The Worst
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2816

                      #11
                      Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                      i'd be fine with hosting a c9++, but i also want to host this game >

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                      • mellonxcollie
                        Sectional Moderator
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1298

                        #12
                        Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                        This game sounds interesting but I agree with V ;_; Once all the kinks are worked out/rules fully defined I definitely want to play this one though
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                        • FoJaR
                          The Worst
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2816

                          #13
                          Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                          WHAT KINKS WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT raeko

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                          • Brilliant Dynamite Neon
                            nobody fiffers anymore.
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 2440

                            #14
                            Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                            Welp, nobody can say much else without a formal write-up of the setup for review. If it's intended to be a mystery game with the powers and such, then you'll have to show it to people privately, who then won't be able to play the game. Won't be a huge deal with the lower player count, but still.
                            ~ OFFICIALLY RETIRED FROM FFR THE GAME AND FFR TWG ~

                            Thanks for the memories, folks. u da bes

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                            • FoJaR
                              The Worst
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2816

                              #15
                              Re: still wanna host this gameeeee

                              yeah powers are not revealed before game.

                              balance doesnt come from powers though, that's the whole point. it's all about who you trust. powers are going to change every day. some days nobody is going to have powers, etc.

                              this game is inherently UNbalanced, towards both wolves and humans.

                              it's all about who you trust.

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