How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

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  • Tman_Rhythm
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2013
    • 13

    #1

    How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

    First of all, I am mainly talking about the songs from this video.
    My opinion is that they all would be within the 35 - 40 range, except maybe Valkyrie Dimension and Paranoia Revolution which would be 42 and 43 respectively. But I'm not a very good judge of difficulty.
    Anyways, what do you guys think? 20's? 30's? 40's?
    Last edited by Tman_Rhythm; 12-6-2013, 05:55 PM.
  • rCaliberGX
    D7 Elite Keymasher
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Jun 2012
    • 2337

    #2
    Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

    comparing pad files to kb ok

    Released!

    Originally posted by Wayward Vagabond
    you look like you're dSucks

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    • TC_Halogen
      Rhythm game specialist.
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Music Producer
      • Feb 2008
      • 19376

      #3
      Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

      Pluto Relinquished has some 400 BPM 8th notes (200 BPM 16ths) which can probably be found in some mid-40s. Just one of many.

      Valkyrie Dimension is interesting to judge because there are mini-jacks going into jumps at 180 (?) 16ths? There's also a 480 BPM 8th note stream in the beginning, and bursts of 180 stuff through the file. That's probably in the 50s somewhere.

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      • hi19hi19
        lol happy
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Oct 2005
        • 12194

        #4
        Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

        The honest answer is that few, if any, would even be accepted into FFR

        Valkyrie Dimension is an absolutely horrendous chart that's pretty much nonstop technical errors, and many other official DDR charts (especially the older ones) are well known for ghost arrows and sync issues.


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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Mar 2006
          • 6161

          #5
          Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

          I would say the hardest they showed is a high VC maybe, so around 50-60? maybe?

          Just by glancing anyways. I think I'm over rating, but eh...


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          • Dynam0
            The Dominator
            • Sep 2005
            • 8987

            #6
            Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

            PSMO would be a 35-40 or something probably

            Annoying shit like 1[12] and 3[34] shows up in DDR lots though and those patterns are ass for spread (Pandemonium for ITG would probably be a 50-60 because of the annoying mini-jacks)
            Last edited by Dynam0; 12-6-2013, 06:30 PM.

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            • DossarLX ODI
              Batch Manager
              Game Manager
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Mar 2008
              • 14999

              #7
              Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

              Since FFR is cmod the xmod factor doesn't play a role in the difficulty. But Valkyrie Dimension I could see as an FMO because it requires good one handed control (it's definitely not any lower than a 65 from the one handed parts in the beginning 240 bpm stream and the ending 16th minijacks into jumps)
              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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              • Netjet!
                Sic itur ad astra
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Jan 2008
                • 4701

                #8
                Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

                Pluto The First is such a troll, hahaha wow. From what I've seen most of them don't push 40 in difficulty, though I haven't looked at Valkyrie Dimension and the other top ones yet.
                RIP Steve Van Ness <3

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                • EzExZeRo7497
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 6858

                  #9
                  Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

                  I can imagine Valkyrie Dimension as a high VC, maybe borderline FMO at max. Paranoia Revolution is definitely (close to) FMO with all those minijacks though lmao.

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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 14999

                    #10
                    Re: How would the hardest DDR songs compare on the FFR difficulty scale?

                    Another dumb chart is Dead End Groove Radar Special. That one I can't see any lower than a VC from those jumpjacks (it also has yellow note syndrome)

                    For Paranoia Revolution: Probably borderline FMO from the ending, if not it's a very high VC (these pics are 360 BPM)

                    This cameljack section is stupid

                    Also this



                    For Valkyrie Dimension: I can see this as a borderline FMO too. Purple is basically one of the highest VCs ever but I don't think its stream patterns are as uneven as this

                    As you can see, the 240 bpm stream mentioned is quite uneven on spread (one handed stuff etc). It's longer than what I have in this picture

                    Other parts easy to mindblock

                    Ugh

                    Nasty in FFR

                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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