The Constitutionality of Partial-Birth Abortions

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  • GuidoHunter
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    • Oct 2003
    • 7371

    #1

    The Constitutionality of Partial-Birth Abortions

    About a half hour ago, I heard of the San Francisco judge's ruling in favor of partial-birth abortions.

    Freakin' ridiculous.

    Not only did she support this horrific act, she overturned a congressional ban on the practice of it, one that was supported by 68% of Americans (Gallup Poll) by claiming that the ban was unconstitutional.

    [Please excuse my graphic nature, but it's for the sake of the discussion]For those of you who don't know, partial-birth abortions occur when a baby is partially delivered. When the baby is still half-in, the doctors crush its skull with a pair of forceps, insert a tube, and suck the brains out, thus killing it.

    It's no wonder why congress overwhelmingly passed a ban on this act, yet there are still supporters (John Kerry is one of them, and he even supported this judge on her ruling). Now, early pregnancy abortions are a completely different story, as the abortions in question are solely partial-birth ones.

    I don't know what loose interpretation of the constitution this activist judge used, because NOWHERE in the document that is the supreme law of our land does it say a woman has the right to terminate the life of a child. Note for the sake of noting: she was appointed by Clinton.

    UPDATE:She said the ban was "unconstitutionally vague" and something else that I don't want to misquote that pretty much means the wording was kinda sketchy. Yeah, that's grounds if I ever heard it.... [/sarcasm]

    The bottom line is that the will of the people (AND its elected officials) was bypassed so that this judge could further her personal agenda. I think her actions are completely outrageous, what about y'all?

    Hopefully we can have some discussion of the legality of partial-birth abortions (NOT anything about early-term, though, becuase that's a different matter) and/or judicial activism.

    --Guido


    Originally posted by Grandiagod
    Originally posted by Grandiagod
    She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
    Sentences I thought I never would have to type.
  • ayanepuck
    FFR Player
    • May 2004
    • 110

    #2
    That is insane.
    end of story
    \"All the world is the birthday cake, so take a piece, but not too much.\"

    \"The Beatles saved the world from boredom.\"
    --George Harrison

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    • ayanepuck
      FFR Player
      • May 2004
      • 110

      #3
      I think that partial birth aboritions are in no way necessary, and I think that whole situation is horrible.
      I also cannot fathom how the judge ruled how she did...I agree with Guido in that this judge cannot rule in favor of murder.
      \"All the world is the birthday cake, so take a piece, but not too much.\"

      \"The Beatles saved the world from boredom.\"
      --George Harrison

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      • Chrissi
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2004
        • 3019

        #4
        That is DISGUSTING...

        What is it needed for? What mother would tolerate her baby being killed while delivering? Why the hell do they have to do it? I mean... what's it for? Why WOULD it be ruled this way? Is there anything at least SUPPOSEDLY good about this practice?
        C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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        • deltro300111
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2003
          • 1014

          #5
          o.O WTF is that f*ck sh*t, PostNatal Abortion is equal to murder, 1st degree unless the baby like falls out, on to the floor during birth... then it's something that I don't know Cuz im only 14.

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          • GuidoHunter
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            • Oct 2003
            • 7371

            #6
            Maybe this should be a thread about abortion in general...perhaps that'd attract more discussion...

            @Chrissi: I don't know; I got nothing.

            @deltro: Yeah.

            --Guido


            Originally posted by Grandiagod
            Originally posted by Grandiagod
            She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
            Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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            • fusi0n
              FFR Player
              • Nov 2003
              • 2158

              #7
              There's already been a critical thinking abortion thread. Go revive it if you want, or just take a read.

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              • Anticrombie0909
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                • Jul 2003
                • 4683

                #8
                This is different from abortion. I support abortion completely. I don't support this. Partial-birth abortions are disgusting and unneccessary, and I'm shocked that they would allow a ban to slip away, much less outright support it.

                I now like John Kerry even less.

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                • fusi0n
                  FFR Player
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 2158

                  #9
                  I was responding to this

                  Originally posted by GuidoHunter
                  Maybe this should be a thread about abortion in general
                  And yes, I support abortion also, but I have never heard of partial-birth abortions. I can't fathom why anyone would do this. Hell, the 'ol rusty coat hanger is more humane.

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                  • GuidoHunter
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 7371

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Anticrombie0909
                    This is different from abortion. I support abortion completely. I don't support this. Partial-birth abortions are disgusting and unneccessary, and I'm shocked that they would allow a ban to slip away, much less outright support it.

                    I now like John Kerry even less.
                    I don't support abortion, and I never have. However, there is one case where I can understand its implementation. It actually sickens me to say that, but I know that it's what I'd want if I were in the position. If a pregnancy or a birth will most likely kill the mother, as soon as possible terminate the pregnancy. If I had to choose between my wife and unborn child, I would, reluctantly, choose my wife.

                    Ugh, I feel bad now for just saying that...

                    --Guido



                    @fusi0n: Reviving dead topics sucks, though. Plus, I was kinda just bumping my own topic with that post. ::hangs head::

                    Originally posted by Grandiagod
                    Originally posted by Grandiagod
                    She has an asshole, in other pics you can see a diaper taped to her dead twin's back.
                    Sentences I thought I never would have to type.

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                    • Chrissi
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 3019

                      #11
                      Does anyone know what they're FOR yet? Why would anyone do this? What's the logic behind it?
                      C is for Charisma, it's why people think I'm great! I make my friends all laugh and smile and never want to hate!

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                      • fusi0n
                        FFR Player
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 2158

                        #12
                        Maybe people like to have partial-birth abortion parties.

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                        • deltro300111
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1014

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chrissi
                          Does anyone know what they're FOR yet? Why would anyone do this? What's the logic behind it?
                          a way of deciding whether or not you like the baby

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                          • fusi0n
                            FFR Player
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 2158

                            #14
                            Originally posted by deltro300111
                            Originally posted by Chrissi
                            Does anyone know what they're FOR yet? Why would anyone do this? What's the logic behind it?
                            a way of deciding whether or not you like the baby
                            "Hmm..the baby looks sort of retarded."
                            "Ok, pop that fucker's head."

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                            • Anticrombie0909
                              FFR Player
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 4683

                              #15
                              Originally posted by deltro300111
                              Originally posted by Chrissi
                              Does anyone know what they're FOR yet? Why would anyone do this? What's the logic behind it?
                              a way of deciding whether or not you like the baby
                              You fail.

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