Open ITG - Timing Windows?

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  • PriestREA
    ddkdkd
    • Sep 2008
    • 792

    #1

    Open ITG - Timing Windows?

    Is it just me or do the timing windows on OpenITG seem extremely strict. I can AAA songs on SM with Judge 4 with a decent MA but I can't even FC songs on OpenITG. The rare FC comes bundled with hundreds of greats. It's pissing me off because I love the ITG theme.
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    FFR Simfile Author
    • Oct 2006
    • 7313

    #2
    Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

    ITG window has a stricter timing window then Stepmania.

    ITG Timing Window:
    JudgeWindowScale=1.000000
    JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.070000
    JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000
    JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000
    JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.102000
    JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.043000
    JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.021500
    JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.320000
    JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.130000

    Stepmania Timing Window:
    JudgeWindowScale=1.000000
    JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.135000
    JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000
    JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000
    JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.090000
    JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.022500
    JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.090000
    JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.250000
    JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.045000
    JudgeWindowSecondsRoll=0.350000

    EDIT: Not sure if you noticed but when you compare the gap between the perfects and greats on both SM and ITG. You will notice that ITG's gap is HUGE so it is much easier to get greats.
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    • Darkomni
      FFR Veteran
      • Oct 2005
      • 287

      #3
      Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

      That's odd, I always found it much easier to MA on songs in OpenITG. I was playing on it when I got my first AAA on an ITG 19: Extratone in a Perfect World from Tachyon Delta.

      Perhaps the fact I was playing index had something to do with it, though.

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #4
        Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

        If you're playing ITG on a custom theme, you may be inadvertently using timing padding. Some themes have 1.2 milliseconds of padding; it's been an ongoing argument that has happened in ITG community for years due to machine polling and whatnot. Check in the metrics to make sure that there's not some sort of override (or, make a static.ini file with JudgeWindowAdd=0.000000).

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        • Tyson ultima
          Autismspeaks.gov
          • Nov 2006
          • 1421

          #5
          Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

          To add in what I have seemed to discover recently that Full screening SD applications tend to sometimes almost cause a severe case of input lag that will destroy your scores.
          Tests:
          Popn Music 17 - Have to hit REALLY early so must be played on window
          Beatmania - Have to change the display type from A to C for my Television which introduces manual delay according to the display type

          Working on ITG:
          Cobalt flux while playing on full screen I noticed I kept getting greats when trying to time everything right. It was barely playable in the slightest. Going to try windowed mode and see if it helps

          tl;dr try to play window'd and see if it helps.

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #6
            Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

            Originally posted by Tyson ultima
            To add in what I have seemed to discover recently that Full screening SD applications tend to sometimes almost cause a severe case of input lag that will destroy your scores.
            Tests:
            Popn Music 17 - Have to hit REALLY early so must be played on window
            Beatmania - Have to change the display type from A to C for my Television which introduces manual delay according to the display type

            Working on ITG:
            Cobalt flux while playing on full screen I noticed I kept getting greats when trying to time everything right. It was barely playable in the slightest. Going to try windowed mode and see if it helps

            tl;dr try to play window'd and see if it helps.
            The last one might be the relationship between your USB and your Flux -- I had massive lag when using mine.

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            • Tyson ultima
              Autismspeaks.gov
              • Nov 2006
              • 1421

              #7
              Re: Open ITG - Timing Windows?

              I thought this was the case, however I tested my flux before on my old monitor which wasn't so much HD and it had worked just fine and was easily playable. It seems upscaling causes more lag especially on rhythm games than people realize.

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